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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2019, 02:33:PM »
Loose bullets weren't found upstairs.




No---empty box which contained them was.

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2019, 02:38:PM »
No---empty box which contained them was.

Not sure where you got that from Lookout, but there is no evidence to substantiate it. Both bullets and the box were downstairs next to the phone.

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2019, 02:40:PM »
Not sure where you got that from Lookout, but there is no evidence to substantiate it. Both bullets and the box were downstairs next to the phone.




Either CC or AE mentioned the empty box in the bedroom.

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2019, 02:53:PM »



Either CC or AE mentioned the empty box in the bedroom.

You have mentioned it before but there is no evidence of such a box.

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2019, 03:16:PM »
You have mentioned it before but there is no evidence of such a box.




Page 35 of CC's book.

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2019, 03:54:PM »



Page 35 of CC's book.


A bullet on June's pillow?

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2019, 03:55:PM »

A bullet on June's pillow?




Nope ! Try reading what you don't want to see/read !

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2019, 03:57:PM »



Page 35 of CC's book.
Which I happen to have to hand:

Bambs was lying on the floor next to the bed; the rifle lay on her chest with an empty ten-round ammunition case nearby; her mother's Bible, heavily bloodstained, was on the floor almost next to her. She had two wounds to the neck. A bullet was also found in June's pillow.

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2019, 04:08:PM »
Which I happen to have to hand:

Bambs was lying on the floor next to the bed; the rifle lay on her chest with an empty ten-round ammunition case nearby; her mother's Bible, heavily bloodstained, was on the floor almost next to her. She had two wounds to the neck. A bullet was also found in June's pillow.



That's exactly what I read, Steve.

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2019, 04:08:PM »
Which I happen to have to hand:

Bambs was lying on the floor next to the bed; the rifle lay on her chest with an empty ten-round ammunition case nearby; her mother's Bible, heavily bloodstained, was on the floor almost next to her. She had two wounds to the neck. A bullet was also found in June's pillow.





That can't be the whole page ?

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2019, 04:23:PM »



That can't be the whole page ?
It's all in italics as if Colin is quoting from witnesses at trial, which he was:

Upstairs in the bedroom occupied by the twins, both boys were found tucked up in their beds apparently asleep, one of them still having his thumb in his mouth. There were no signs of a struggle. Nicholas had three shots to the back of his head and Daniel had been shot five times, also in the back of his head. In the main bedroom, June was found on the floor behind the door. She had been shot several times, including one shot between her eyes and into her brain; blood had run down her legs and onto the carpet, as if she had walked around the bed and across the room before the final fatal shot. Like her husband, she had been beaten as well as shot.

Bambs was lying on the floor next to the bed; the rifle lay on her chest with an empty, ten-round ammunition case nearby: her mother's Bible, heavily bloodstained, was on the floor almost next to her. She had two wounds to the neck. A bullet was also found in June's pillow.

Outside the house, after the discovery of the bodies, Jeremy had appeared unwilling to accept what had happened. The police surgeon, Dr Ian Craig, who certified the deaths, had found him sitting in the back of a patrol car "in a state of shock". Dr Craig suggested that they go for a walk, at which point Jeremy asked him, "Why can't my father come too?" After telling him that his father was dead, Jeremy broke down and the doctor gave him a drop of whisky. Jeremy had then wandered off into a field from where he was heard retching. He had also told Dr Craig that the previous evening his parents had been discussing  the future of the twins with his sister and  had suggested to her that they should be fostered. Jeremy had also alleged that Sheila had physically abused her children.

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2019, 04:25:PM »
It states that " Bambs was lying on the floor next to the bed: the rifle lay on her chest with an empty 10 round ammunition case nearby ". Page 35.

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2019, 04:28:PM »
Plus there was a stray bullet in the bedroom which would have meant that Sheila was loading them singularly and not the full amount that a magazine would hold.

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2019, 04:30:PM »
Is an ammunition case the same as a magazine ?

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Re: Sheila's first rifle load:
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2019, 04:34:PM »
Plus there was a stray bullet in the bedroom which would have meant that Sheila was loading them singularly and not the full amount that a magazine would hold.
What about the bullets on the blue and white chequered worktop, and how did she scamper up and downstairs in her condition to pump enough lead into Nevill to disable both parents?