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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2019, 09:36:PM »
I agree, I don't think it was the two Asian guys and the tape translation was very dodgy! The family seemed to have lots of peado's in their house and the guy mentioned at the end might lead to something. I hope they find out what happened to her and that she is still alive but I very much doubt it.
This suspect is Nigel Lloyd. https://wideshut.co.uk/who-is-nigel-lloyd-suspect-charlene-downes/

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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2019, 10:27:AM »
i cant belive they have only just looked at the cctv footage its almost lik the first team dident want to solve it.

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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2019, 10:53:AM »
I agree, I don't think it was the two Asian guys and the tape translation was very dodgy! The family seemed to have lots of peado's in their house and the guy mentioned at the end might lead to something. I hope they find out what happened to her and that she is still alive but I very much doubt it.

what im trying t work out is did the downes family knwingly let all those perverts in there house or were they just naive people who were taken advantage of.

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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2019, 04:34:PM »
what im trying t work out is did the downes family knwingly let all those perverts in there house or were they just naive people who were taken advantage of.
Apparently they were invited in by Bob, though one would have to speculate as to the reason why. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7062421/Charlene-Downes-mother-waited-two-days-call-police-daughter-went-missing.html

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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2019, 01:03:AM »
Apparently they were invited in by Bob, though one would have to speculate as to the reason why. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7062421/Charlene-Downes-mother-waited-two-days-call-police-daughter-went-missing.html

the presnce of ray monroe in the huse might explian why they dident want the police coming round but that woukd that they what monroe was charged with.

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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2019, 07:09:PM »
what im trying t work out is did the downes family knwingly let all those perverts in there house or were they just naive people who were taken advantage of.

The father admitted to having been offered money from one of them to sleep with Charlene (£20.00).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7062421/Charlene-Downes-mother-waited-two-days-call-police-daughter-went-missing.html
"Charlene herself had reported some of her father's acquaintances to social services for sexually inappropriate behaviour."

Unlikely that they didn't know.
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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2019, 12:04:AM »
The father admitted to having been offered money from one of them to sleep with Charlene (£20.00).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7062421/Charlene-Downes-mother-waited-two-days-call-police-daughter-went-missing.html
"Charlene herself had reported some of her father's acquaintances to social services for sexually inappropriate behaviour."

Unlikely that they didn't know.

yes rather unlikely i bet anyone  who went on thse marches must be felling a bit sick now.

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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2019, 05:36:PM »
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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2019, 01:29:PM »
if somone had made such an offer to me i would of thumped them and shown them the door i think most people would her dads reaction to it says a lot.
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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2019, 06:45:PM »
heres the facebook group run by her mother funny theres no mention of the documentry wonder why.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/186251981489436/?ref=group_header

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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2019, 08:52:PM »
heres the facebook group run by her mother funny theres no mention of the documentry wonder why.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/186251981489436/?ref=group_header

Did you join it?
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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2019, 12:45:AM »
i joineed it a long time ago

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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2019, 06:15:PM »
what bothers me slightly is how a confidential report be social services manged to get into the hands of a national newspaper and why this paper hesitation in going to print.

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Re: The Murder of Charlene Downes
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2019, 12:32:AM »
ive been told the woman seen on cctv with charlene was in fact her case worker so has been elimated.

the  bob tht hs been mentioned bere maybe robert ewing who was convicted of killing page chivers.