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Offline mike tesko

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The pathologist noted during autopsy performed on the corpse of Sheila Caffell that she had a very recently inflicted injury to her body which had been covered with a plaster...
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The pathologist noted during autopsy performed on the corpse of Sheila Caffell that she had a very recently inflicted injury to her body which had been covered with a plaster...
This will probably remain a mystery. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,580.0.html

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The pathologist noted during autopsy performed on the corpse of Sheila Caffell that she had a very recently inflicted injury to her body which had been covered with a plaster...

This could be another reason why the upstairs bathroom light was found on when they arrived.  She used it to wash her hands and/or put this plaster on.

If Jeremy had a recent injury like this one we wouldn’t hear the end of it.
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This could be another reason why the upstairs bathroom light was found on when they arrived.  She used it to wash her hands and/or put this plaster on.

If Jeremy had a recent injury like this one we wouldn’t hear the end of it.

So she puts on a plaster just before shooting herself?  ::)

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So she puts on a plaster just before shooting herself?  ::)

But, that's just it, Sheila didn't shoot herself, she simply shot and killed June Bamber in her bed, who was a sitting duck! Similarly, she disposed of her own two children. Disposing of Neville Bamber was a different kettle of fiish, she had to stalk him, wait for him to realise that the others had been destroyed, then she hunted him down, shot at him, attacked him, then finished him off in the kitchen..
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So she puts on a plaster just before shooting herself?  ::)

Nothing far fetched given her mental state. Don’t have to literally be “just before” either.
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Nothing far fetched given her mental state. Don’t have to literally be “just before” either.

Or at all - means nothing and she was on medication.
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But, that's just it, Sheila didn't shoot herself, she simply shot and killed June Bamber in her bed, who was a sitting duck! Similarly, she disposed of her own two children. Disposing of Neville Bamber was a different kettle of fiish, she had to stalk him, wait for him to realise that the others had been destroyed, then she hunted him down, shot at him, attacked him, then finished him off in the kitchen..

Why did Sheila stalk Nevill and wait for him to realise the other had been shot Mike ?
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Why did Sheila stalk Nevill and wait for him to realise the other had been shot Mike ?

Adam, I am as convinced as I can be, that Neville Bamber was not present inside the farmhouse when June and her two grandchildren were shot to bits, and killed...

In this narrative, Sheila would have easily been able to dispatch her two young sons, and her adoptive mother..

If Sheila was the shooter, that just left her to deal with Neville Bamber, which was a different proposition, altogether...

She had to set a trap, and wait for Neville not only to return to the farmhouse at around midnight, or later, but she had to make sure that whenever he stumbled upon her handy work, that he could not raise the alarm immediately! In this respect, I believe that Sheila unplugged the bedroom telephone as part of her strategy, so that when Neville discovered the awful truth that he could not raise the alarm from the main bedroom, but that he would need to either go to the upstairs office, or downstairs to the kitchen to alert, Jeremy and the police...

One thing looks a certainty and that was that in order to discover the awful truth concerning the loss of life in the case of his wife (June) and his two grandchildren (Daniel and Nicholas), Neville had to be upstairs in either bedroom, and that the shooter lay in wait for him at that time, to make his way toward one or the other two phone points in the farmhouse (upstairs office or kitchen). All Sheila had to do was conceal herself behind her own bedroom door, or the latched door at the top of the spiral stair case, and wait for the moment that Neville came back out onto the top landing from the main bedroom!

Of course, timing would have played a vital role in whether or not Neville was able to avoid or escape the interest of the shooter, and based on what is now known it appears that Neville was provisionally successful in making his way all the way down to the kitchen, arguably only being shot once on his way down the main stairs!

Once downstairs in the kitchen, and with Neville alerting Jeremy and the police by 3.26am, it then became an issue of an armed Sheila versus a wounded Neville Bamber - I don't buy into the claim that there was any struggle between Sheila and Neville over the possession of the loaded .22 anshuzt rifle. This is because, any struggle that took place in the kitchen invariably involved a fight over the possession of the 12 bore shotgun, which scratched the kitchen mantelpiece...

Exactly when such a struggle took place, is another issue..

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But, that's just it, Sheila didn't shoot herself, she simply shot and killed June Bamber in her bed, who was a sitting duck! Similarly, she disposed of her own two children. Disposing of Neville Bamber was a different kettle of fiish, she had to stalk him, wait for him to realise that the others had been destroyed, then she hunted him down, shot at him, attacked him, then finished him off in the kitchen..

Please don't ignore the available evidence which places Sheila's body (a dead female) elsewhere, other than on the main bedroom floor, recorded in the police files - a female body in the Laundry room sighted through the Laundry room window before the firearms team entered the premises! The dead female found in the kitchen upon entry by the firearm officers, at 7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am, 7.42am, the fact that by 7.45am only two bodies had been found, one dead male, one dead female, the two deaths being referred to back in the  control room as  a murder, and a suicide, and of course, the fact that by 8.10am, only a further three bodies found upstairs, at a time when all five bodies had been confirmed as being dead, two bodies downstairs, three bodies upstairs. Sheila's body upstairs on the far side of the bed (8.44am), Sheila's body laid on top of the bed with a Bible on her chest (9.05am), to her body ending up on the main bedroom floor by 9.30am...

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We can't keep letting Essex police off the hook with the excuse that they made mistake after mistake!!!
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We can't keep letting Essex police off the hook with the excuse that they made mistake after mistake!!!

Honest law abiding cops don't make the kind of mistakes Essex police keep claiming that they made!
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The keystone cops would have done a much better job than that handled by Essex police!
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The keystone cops would have done a much better job than that handled by Essex police!

I have never before been involved in or known about so many exhibits having exhibit references altered from this to that, or the fact that a police investigation had at least two (but possibly several other) crime reference numbers associated with or to it!

But..

This has occurred in the prosecution of Jeremy Bamber as the killer of his family, in particular the murder of his sister!!

Something is very seriously wrong here, and it doesn't stop with Essex police. Since the CPS, the Judiciary, the Home Secretary, and the appellate court are all deeply involved in this deception - none of them are fit for purpose, the lot of them all common low life criminals, in other words a modern day version of the Nazi's...

Awful, despicable mob!!!
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Adam, I am as convinced as I can be, that Neville Bamber was not present inside the farmhouse when June and her two grandchildren were shot to bits, and killed...

In this narrative, Sheila would have easily been able to dispatch her two young sons, and her adoptive mother..

If Sheila was the shooter, that just left her to deal with Neville Bamber, which was a different proposition, altogether...

She had to set a trap, and wait for Neville not only to return to the farmhouse at around midnight, or later, but she had to make sure that whenever he stumbled upon her handy work, that he could not raise the alarm immediately! In this respect, I believe that Sheila unplugged the bedroom telephone as part of her strategy, so that when Neville discovered the awful truth that he could not raise the alarm from the main bedroom, but that he would need to either go to the upstairs office, or downstairs to the kitchen to alert, Jeremy and the police...

One thing looks a certainty and that was that in order to discover the awful truth concerning the loss of life in the case of his wife (June) and his two grandchildren (Daniel and Nicholas), Neville had to be upstairs in either bedroom, and that the shooter lay in wait for him at that time, to make his way toward one or the other two phone points in the farmhouse (upstairs office or kitchen). All Sheila had to do was conceal herself behind her own bedroom door, or the latched door at the top of the spiral stair case, and wait for the moment that Neville came back out onto the top landing from the main bedroom!

Of course, timing would have played a vital role in whether or not Neville was able to avoid or escape the interest of the shooter, and based on what is now known it appears that Neville was provisionally successful in making his way all the way down to the kitchen, arguably only being shot once on his way down the main stairs!

Once downstairs in the kitchen, and with Neville alerting Jeremy and the police by 3.26am, it then became an issue of an armed Sheila versus a wounded Neville Bamber - I don't buy into the claim that there was any struggle between Sheila and Neville over the possession of the loaded .22 anshuzt rifle. This is because, any struggle that took place in the kitchen invariably involved a fight over the possession of the 12 bore shotgun, which scratched the kitchen mantelpiece...

Exactly when such a struggle took place, is another issue..

Thanks Mike.

If Sheila was waiting for Nevill to return, when did Nevill make his phone calls ?
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