Recent Injury to Sheila's abdomen, had a plaster covering it during tragedy!

[mike tesko]

A number of police action reports contained in the police file  tell of class members being puzzled by June Bambers absence from Bible class that Tuesday evening!

[Jane]

Yes, but there were other members of the Bible class who were puzzled by June's absence from Bible class that evening!

Let us also not overlook the confrontation between Sheila and an employee of the regional electricity board, or an agent of that company who was challenged by Sheila and subjected to a volley of abuse, which only came to a halt after June Bamber intervened, making her apologies, and stating that Sheila had not been taking her medication, etc, etc, etc...

Ewen Smith took a witness statement from the victim, involved in this confrontation, and it becomes clear that Sheila was volatile, abusive and aggressive in nature and attitude...

So? "Other members of the Bible class were puzzled by June's absence" What's the big deal? June, as would I, and many others, no doubt, have told the person they felt it was necessary to inform of her inability to attend, and relied on that person to tell the others, rather than contacting everyone individually. Naturally, as a regular participator, her non attendance would have been questioned. Why would there be anything sinister about her friends wondering about it?

[mike tesko]

So? "Other members of the Bible class were puzzled by June's absence" What's the big deal? June, as would I, and many others, no doubt, have told the person they felt it was necessary to inform of her inability to attend, and relied on that person to tell the others, rather than contacting everyone individually. Naturally, as a regular participator, her non attendance would have been questioned. Why would there be anything sinister about her friends wondering about it?

June didn't go to evening Bible class, because she had been having trouble with Sheila who gave her a black eye - she didn't want to leave Sheila alone in care of her grandchildren whilst she was out at the Bible class, and Neville and Jeremy out of the house busily harvesting crop from their fields...

[Jane]

June didn't go to evening Bible class, because she had been having trouble with Sheila who gave her a black eye - she didn't want to leave Sheila alone in care of her grandchildren whilst she was out at the Bible class, and Neville and Jeremy out of the house busily harvesting crop from their fields...

Perhaps you could tell us why you're so confident that what you're  saying -given that it can't be confirmed- is correct............other than the part about Jeremy and his father being busy with the harvest?

[mike tesko]

Perhaps you could tell us why you're so confident that what you're  saying -given that it can't be confirmed- is correct............other than the part about Jeremy and his father being busy with the harvest?

June did have a swollen eye, albeit there was a suggestion that this could have been caused as a result of being shot between the eyes by a bullet - the pathologist didn't say one way or the other...

[Steve_uk]

June didn't go to evening Bible class, because she had been having trouble with Sheila who gave her a black eye - she didn't want to leave Sheila alone in care of her grandchildren whilst she was out at the Bible class, and Neville and Jeremy out of the house busily harvesting crop from their fields...

This has been discussed several times now and your theory can be discounted.

[mike tesko]

This has been discussed several times now and your theory can be discounted.

Jeremy noticed June had a black eye that last evening at the supper table, and she gave an unlikely explanation for its causation - so unfortunately it hasn't been exhaustively investigated..
A great deal of things happenned during that three hour period (8.13am - 11.10am):-

Sheila's body moved from (B) to (C), and then from (C) to (D)...
Period (1) - 3.25am - 3.52am
Period (2) - 3.53am - 4.02am
Period (3) - 4.03am - 4.59am
Period (4) - 5.00am - 6.08am
Period (5) - 6.09am - 6.59am
Period (6) - 7.00am - 7.29am
Period (7) - 7.30am - 7.34am Sheila's body at position (A)
Period (8) - 7.35am - 8.10am  Sheila's body at position (B)
Period (9) - 8.11am - 8.13am
Period (10) - 8.14am - 8.43am
Period (11) - 8.44am - 8.59am Sheila's body at position (C)
Period (12) - 9.00am - 9.12am
Period (13) - 9.13am - 9.29am Sheila's body at position (D)
Period (14) - 9.30am - 11.09am
Period (15) - 11.10am - 1.15pm

Position (A) - relates to Sheila's body in Laundry room
Position (B) - relates to Sheila's body in kitchen
Position (C) - relates to Sheila's body being laid on the bed
Position (D) - relates to Sheila's body being laid on floor

[Jane]

Jeremy noticed June had a black eye that last evening at the supper table, and she gave an unlikely explanation for its causation - so unfortunately it hasn't been exhaustively investigated..
A great deal of things happenned during that three hour period (8.13am - 11.10am):-

Sheila's body moved from (B) to (C), and then from (C) to (D)...
Period (1) - 3.25am - 3.52am
Period (2) - 3.53am - 4.02am
Period (3) - 4.03am - 4.59am
Period (4) - 5.00am - 6.08am
Period (5) - 6.09am - 6.59am
Period (6) - 7.00am - 7.29am
Period (7) - 7.30am - 7.34am Sheila's body at position (A)
Period ( - 7.35am - 8.10am  Sheila's body at position (B)
Period (9) - 8.11am - 8.13am
Period (10) - 8.14am - 8.43am
Period (11) - 8.44am - 8.59am Sheila's body at position (C)
Period (12) - 9.00am - 9.12am
Period (13) - 9.13am - 9.29am Sheila's body at position (D)
Period (14) - 9.30am - 11.09am
Period (15) - 11.10am - 1.15pm

Position (A) - relates to Sheila's body in Laundry room
Position (B) - relates to Sheila's body in kitchen
Position (C) - relates to Sheila's body being laid on the bed
Position (D) - relates to Sheila's body being laid on floor

Well, we mustn't overlook, must we, the fact that Jeremy was free to tell whatever story he wanted as there was no one left alive to contradict it..

[mike tesko]

Well, we mustn't overlook, must we, the fact that Jeremy was free to tell whatever story he wanted as there was no one left alive to contradict it..

You should really try to focus on the true facts, rather than try to muddy the waters - since, just for your information, you are overlooking one startling undisputed fact, that puts Jeremy Bamber (despite how you and your lot hate him) in the clear! Guess what, Sheila was not dead on the main bedroom floor when the firearm team entered the kitchen at 7.35am! Yes, they went into the kitchen at that time, and guess how many bodies were present there at that time? Not one body, but two - which part don't you and the other brain dead people understand? Not one body, but a body, and another body, 1 + 1 = 2. Ok know Essex police can't be relied upon the to tell the Forrest time, and it now also appears diobviooys that they can't do simple arithmetic, neither can you and yours, two bodies, not just two bodies, but the body of one dead male and the body of one dead female (for your benefit, the term 'male' is spelt differently to the term 'female', if you don't know the difference between the two, that's not my problem)!

1 + 1 = 2..

It was never a case (like you and others are trying to suggest) of 1 + 1 = 1...

The raid team members all had personal radios, and for your information each of the 6 man raid team had individual calls signs so that when any one of them passed a radio message, a log keeper back at the forward control point, was recording what each member of the raid team said or spoke about!

The contents of this operational log have not yet been disclosed, and the reason for that / this is because by the end of this particular part of the operation (8.13am), there were two bodies downstairs, and only three bodies upstairs ( the Commander during this operation was PS Adams)..

The operational log, contains all the evidence that I am talking about, Essex police are basically fucked, they are in the shit, they have fucked up, good and proper, and they will eventually have to face the music!

Don't try to tell me that I don't know the routines of these task forces, they all keep an operational log, so where are the two operational log contents from the operation at whf where PS Adams was the Commander of the first part, and PI Montgomery was the Commander of the second part?

[mike tesko]

You should really try to focus on the true facts, rather than try to muddy the waters - since, just for your information, you are overlooking one startling undisputed fact, that puts Jeremy Bamber (despite how you and your lot hate him) in the clear! Guess what, Sheila was not dead on the main bedroom floor when the firearm team entered the kitchen at 7.35am! Yes, they went into the kitchen at that time, and guess how many bodies were present there at that time? Not one body, but two - which part don't you and the other brain dead people understand? Not one body, but a body, and another body, 1 + 1 = 2. Ok know Essex police can't be relied upon the to tell the Forrest time, and it now also appears diobviooys that they can't do simple arithmetic, neither can you and yours, two bodies, not just two bodies, but the body of one dead male and the body of one dead female (for your benefit, the term 'male' is spelt differently to the term 'female', if you don't know the difference between the two, that's not my problem)!

1 + 1 = 2..

It was never a case (like you and others are trying to suggest) of 1 + 1 = 1...

The raid team members all had personal radios, and for your information each of the 6 man raid team had individual calls signs so that when any one of them passed a radio message, a log keeper back at the forward control point, was recording what each member of the raid team said or spoke about!

The contents of this operational log have not yet been disclosed, and the reason for that / this is because by the end of this particular part of the operation (8.13am), there were two bodies downstairs, and only three bodies upstairs ( the Commander during this operation was PS Adams)..

The operational log, contains all the evidence that I am talking about, Essex police are basically fucked, they are in the shit, they have fucked up, good and proper, and they will eventually have to face the music!

Don't try to tell me that I don't know the routines of these task forces, they all keep an operational log, so where are the two operational log contents from the operation at whf where PS Adams was the Commander of the first part, and PI Montgomery was the Commander of the second part?

Withheld under pii (no doubt), but there is good news for Jeremy, since he can force Essex police to release these two operational logs (known as the 'COMMAND LOG'), providing that the Information he is seeking would tend to prove his innocence! Well, guess what? Yes, the information contained in these two operational logs will not only tend to prove that Jeremy Bamber had not, and did not shoot dead his sister there on the main bedroom floor, and that he did not stage her death scene as a suicide!

I know that I am right, I don't need any ordinary members of the public trying to tell me about the methods adopted by these task forces, crime squads and firearm units...

[mike tesko]

The messages passed to and fro between the six man raid team and the Commander (PS Adams) during the firearm operation between around 7.39am and 8.13am, would have been recorded in the 'COMMAND LOG' kept at the forward control point, which at the White house farm incident was situated in a nearby outbuilding!

[mike tesko]

The contents of this 'COMMAND LOG' will almost certainly result in Jeremy Bambers convictions being quashed, and the prosecution of any surviving criminalised firearm officers, on Conspiracy to per ert the course f justice, and potentially be at peril of being arraigned on a murder charge, themselves!

[Caroline]

So? "Other members of the Bible class were puzzled by June's absence" What's the big deal? June, as would I, and many others, no doubt, have told the person they felt it was necessary to inform of her inability to attend, and relied on that person to tell the others, rather than contacting everyone individually. Naturally, as a regular participator, her non attendance would have been questioned. Why would there be anything sinister about her friends wondering about it?

They weren't wondering about it

They ALL knew she wasn't attending and why.

[mike tesko]

They weren't wondering about it

They ALL knew she wasn't attending and why.

Informed them all afterwards, not beforehand, there is a difference - she told them all afterwards that June had told her that she wouldn't be attending and that was why she hadn't attended on the last occasion...

[Jane]

Informed them all afterwards, not beforehand, there is a difference - she told them all afterwards that June had told her that she wouldn't be attending and that wascwhy she hadn't attended on the last occasion...

Unless she was clairvoyant, she could hardly have told them before it happened, could she.? It's unbelievable in the extreme that she'd have omitted to tell the group that the person who ran it wouldn't be attending.