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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #60 on: November 04, 2018, 01:05:PM »
Sheila's odd behaviour and her reluctance to speak about anything at all to Pamela on the telephone that evening, provides a clue as to why the round finger dial telephone which was normally plugged in at the main bedroom socket, eventually ended up being plugged in downstairs at the kitchen socket!
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« Reply #61 on: November 04, 2018, 01:09:PM »
I think that when Sheila disappeared upstairs during June Bambers call to her sister Pamela, that Sheila went into the main bedroom and unplugged the round finger dial telephone from its socket, and that later on she was downstairs when she unplugged the digital telephone from its kitchen socket, and plugged in the round finger dial phone in its place - she then took the digital telephone upstairs to her bedroom..
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #62 on: November 04, 2018, 01:10:PM »
I think that when Sheila disappeared upstairs during June Bambers call to her sister Pamela, that Sheila went into the main bedroom and unplugged the round finger dial telephone from its socket, and that later on she was downstairs when she unplugged the digital telephone from its kitchen socket, and plugged in the round finger dial phone in its place - she then took the digital telephone upstairs to her bedroom..

If this is / was true, it begs the question as to a possible motive, or a reason as to why Sheila would go to such trouble?
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #63 on: November 04, 2018, 01:13:PM »
If this is / was true, it begs the question as to a possible motive, or a reason as to why Sheila would go to such trouble?

Removing the round finger dial phone from its bedroom socket I can understand, because with no telephone plugged in at the bedroom socket June would have no avenue of raising the alarm easily if she could not be killed off quickly by Sheila?
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #64 on: November 04, 2018, 01:15:PM »
But, once Sheila removed the round finger dial phone from the bedroom socket, what did she do with it?
« Last Edit: November 04, 2018, 01:15:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #65 on: November 04, 2018, 01:16:PM »
But, once Sheila removed the round finger dial phone from the bedroom socket, what did she do with it?

What we now know, was that Sheila took the digital telephone that was plugged in at the kitchen socket, and took it to her bedroom..
« Last Edit: November 04, 2018, 01:17:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #66 on: November 04, 2018, 01:20:PM »
Something happened after Sheila had unplugged the digital telephone from its Kitchen socket and took it to her bedroom, in relation and with regards to the round finger dial telephone she had prior unplugged from its main bedroom socket, because we know that by the time the raid team entered the kitchen of the farmhouse at about 7.35am, that the round finger dial telephone was already plugged in at the kitchen socket by that stage!
« Last Edit: November 04, 2018, 01:21:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2018, 01:24:PM »
This brings me on to he eavesdropping of the operator who at one stage or another, spoke about the phone being off the hook, and that she could hear a dog barking, to the phone then becoming mysteriously engaged, which subsequently resulted in the operator patching that line through to the control room at Chelmsford police station so that police could maintain constant audio monitoring, etc, etc, etc...
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #68 on: November 04, 2018, 01:27:PM »
This brings me on to he eavesdropping of the operator who at one stage or another, spoke about the phone being off the hook, and that she could hear a dog barking, to the phone then becoming mysteriously engaged, which subsequently resulted in the operator patching that line through to the control room at Chelmsford police station so that police could maintain constant audio monitoring, etc, etc, etc...

Linked to this, of course, was the telephone call which Neville Bamber had made to Jeremy, followed by his call to police timed at 3.26am, where he told the police ' My daughter has got hold of one of my guns'...
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #69 on: November 04, 2018, 01:29:PM »
One or other of the two telephones must have been plugged in, at the time of operator checks, of Neville phoning Jeremy, and then at 3.26am of Neville Bamber himself calling police at 3.26am..
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« Reply #70 on: November 04, 2018, 01:31:PM »
One or other of the two telephones must have been plugged in, at the time of operator checks, of Neville phoning Jeremy, and then at 3.26am of Neville Bamber himself calling police at 3.26am..

It seems to me, that the disconnecting of the telephones, the concealment of one, and the re-plugging of the other at the kitchen socket, must have taken place at a very early stage, certainly before Neville Bamber spoke to Jeremy, and then the police at 3.26am...
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #71 on: November 04, 2018, 03:36:PM »
I can't see how Jeremy could have interested with the telephones after June Bamber had spoken to her sister Pamela at around 10pm in the evening, using the kitchen phone, so that 'it' ended up in his sister's room, and the phone from his parents bedroom ended up downstairs plugged in at the kitchen socket!

Jeremy left white house farm at around 9.30pm, that same evening, a good half an hour before June used the kitchen phone to speak to Pamela..
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #72 on: November 04, 2018, 03:41:PM »
Everything points to Sheila going upstairs to bed, yet unplugging the round finger dial phone in her parents bedroom (with both her parents absent for one reason or another), so that with Neville Bamber out of the farmhouse, June wouldn't have any means of communication by telephone to anyone or the outside world once she retired to bed. What also seems somewhat obvious was that at some point after June finished speaking with her sister, and June had retired upstairs to her bedroom, that Sheila snook back downstairs and unplugged the digital telephone from the kitchen socket, and in its place she plugged in the round finger dial telephone - she then took the digital telephone back upstairs to her bedroom (she managed to do all of this before Neville Bamber returned to the farmhouse from the fields)...
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #73 on: November 04, 2018, 04:10:PM »
Everything points to Sheila going upstairs to bed, yet unplugging the round finger dial phone in her parents bedroom (with both her parents absent for one reason or another), so that with Neville Bamber out of the farmhouse, June wouldn't have any means of communication by telephone to anyone or the outside world once she retired to bed. What also seems somewhat obvious was that at some point after June finished speaking with her sister, and June had retired upstairs to her bedroom, that Sheila snook back downstairs and unplugged the digital telephone from the kitchen socket, and in its place she plugged in the round finger dial telephone - she then took the digital telephone back upstairs to her bedroom (she managed to do all of this before Neville Bamber returned to the farmhouse from the fields)...

I have pondered long and hard over the reason why the telephones plugged in at main bedroom and kitchen got tampered with? And the only thing that appears to make any sense, was that Sheila unplugged the bedroom phone so that when she attacked her adoptive mother she could raise the alarm if she didn't die quickly! I think Sheila did this at the conclusion of June's call to her sister Pamela. It's also possible that once Sheila went upstairs leaving June Bamber talking to her sister that Sheila could have been eavesdropping that part of the conversation where June was telling her sister that Sheila was behaving oddly, and that she wanted Pamela to have a look at her on the following day when June would be bringing Sheila and the two children for tea?

As soon as June put the phone down in the kitchen, Sheila unplugged the round finger dial phone from the main bedroom socket, and took it into her bedroom, waiting for June to come upstairs to bed!
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #74 on: November 04, 2018, 04:43:PM »
I believe this action of Sheila's is covered in the note found on Sheila Caffell's bedside cabinet (DRH/42) which is a series of letters of the alphabet, in particular the following Letters:-

B (bedroom)
P (phone)
L (lead)
U (unplugged..
« Last Edit: November 04, 2018, 04:50:PM by mike tesko »
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