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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2018, 07:42:AM »
This shotgun was removed from the gun cupboard in the downstairs office, some 4 days prior to the supposed recovery of the silencer by David Boutflour on 10th August 1985...
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2018, 07:46:AM »
This shotgun was removed from the gun cupboard in the downstairs office, some 4 days prior to the supposed recovery of the silencer by David Boutflour on 10th August 1985...

Remember, that according to the fingerprint examination of the silencer, that nobodies fingerprints were found to be present upon 'it'...

Whereas, the fingerprints of Neville Bamber and the fingerprints of Sheila Caffell were found to be present upon the barrell of the 12 bore shotgun recovered some 4 days earlier than the date the silencer was seized by Boutflour at the scene, from the very same gun cupboard!
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2018, 07:48:AM »
Remember, that according to the fingerprint examination of the silencer, that nobodies fingerprints were found to be present upon 'it'...

Whereas, the fingerprints of Neville Bamber and the fingerprints of Sheila Caffell were found to be present upon the barrell of the 12 bore shotgun recovered some 4 days earlier than the date the silencer was seized by Boutflour at the scene, from the very same gun cupboard!

Remember the damaged kitchen ceiling lightshade, and the fact that on 8th August 1985, that SOCO used a metal detector to locate the shot from the spent RAKER cartridge case in the kitchen of the farmhouse!!!...
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2018, 07:53:AM »
Stop..
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2018, 07:54:AM »
Stop..

Why do Neville Bambers and Sheila Caffell's fingerprints appear upon the barrel of the 12 bore shotgun?
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2018, 07:56:AM »
The 12 bore shotgun was recovered (7 August 1985) from the very same gun cupboard some 4 days before (10 August 1985) David Boutflour found one of the silencers which supposedly contained the unique blood of Sheila Caffell..
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2018, 08:06:AM »
The 12 bore shotgun was recovered (7 August 1985) from the very same gun cupboard some 4 days before (10 August 1985) David Boutflour found one of the silencers which supposedly contained the unique blood of Sheila Caffell..

I am convinced that any scratch mark found on the kitchen aga surround (7th to 9th August 1985) were made by the end of the 12 bore shotgun coming into contact with 'it' during a struggle between two people..

The two people involved in this / any struggle were almost certainly Neville Bamber and Sheila Caffell'..
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« Reply #37 on: November 02, 2018, 08:08:AM »
I am convinced that any scratch mark found on the kitchen aga surround (7th to 9th August 1985) were made by the end of the 12 bore shotgun coming into contact with 'it' during a struggle between two people..

The two people involved in this / any struggle were almost certainly Neville Bamber and Sheila Caffell'..

This conclusion is based on the existence of Neville Bambers and Sheila Caffell's fingerprints found to be present on the barrel of the shotgun found in the same gun cupboard as the silencer (allegedly found in the same gun cupboard as the silencer found by David Boutflour 4 days afterwards)..
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2018, 08:17:AM »
This conclusion is based on the existence of Neville Bambers and Sheila Caffell's fingerprints found to be present on the barrel of the shotgun found in the same gun cupboard as the silencer (allegedly found in the same gun cupboard as the silencer found by David Boutflour 4 days afterwards)..

This leads me to question, the suggestion that because Sheila Caffell's unique blood was found inside the silencer, and that she could not have shot herself dead (and afterwards hid the silencer in the downstairs office cupboard), and her fingerprints be present on the barrel of the 12 bore shotgun found in the same gun cupboard?

Not only that, but the fingerprints of Neville Bamber and herself found to be present on the barrel of that 12 bore shotgun in that same gun cupboard, and the damage to the kitchen ceiling lampshades, and the recovery of shot from the discharge of the 12 bore shotgun by use of a metal detector in the kitchen at the scene on 8 August 1985...?

Both scenarios are contradictive to one another...
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2018, 08:24:AM »
Essex police knew that the kitchen lampshade had been damaged by the 12 bore shotguns blast - what I am telling you all, is that the presence of Neville Bambers and Sheila Caffell's fingerprints that were found to be present on the barrel of the shotgun is sounding an alarm!

Hence, why Essex police are still refusing to disclose a copy of the original handwritten SOCO report covering 7th and 8th August 1985...
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2018, 05:13:PM »
The 12 bore shotgun was found in the same gun cupboard on 7 August 1985, where David Boutflour found the silencer on 10 August 1985 - Sheila's fingerprints on the shotguns barrel and red paint from the kitchen mantelpiece ingrained onto its barrel...
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2018, 07:13:PM »
The 12 bore shotgun was found in the same gun cupboard on 7 August 1985, where David Boutflour found the silencer on 10 August 1985 - Sheila's fingerprints on the shotguns barrel and red paint from the kitchen mantelpiece ingrained onto its barrel...

Do these circular type scratch marks correspond with the diameter of one of the shot gun barrels coming into contact with the kitchen mantelpiece?

I believe that the curved marks in the two elongated scratch marks in the photograph below were made by the barrel of the shotgun coming into contact there during a struggle between Sheila and Neville over control and possession of the shotgun, and that these two curved scratch marks were not made by a silencer..

It would be interesting to find out whether or not the guns barrel to which DS Davidson alludes to in his COLP interview that had paint on, was the shotgun and whether or not paint was on both barrells, or just one them?
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2018, 08:20:PM »
It seems somewhat obvious to me, that Essex police concealed the shotgun evidence and in particular the fact that paint from the scratched kitchen mantelpiece was ingrained onto it barrel as alluded to by DS Davidson, and that once the nature of the investigation changed course, the cops and relatives introduced the silencer evidence claiming that it had been the silencer which had scratched the mantelpiece when it had not - the shotgun barrel did and had...
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2018, 08:25:PM »
It seems somewhat obvious to me, that Essex police concealed the shotgun evidence and in particular the fact that paint from the scratched kitchen mantelpiece was ingrained onto it barrel as alluded to by DS Davidson, and that once the nature of the investigation changed course, the cops and relatives introduced the silencer evidence claiming that it had been the silencer which had scratched the mantelpiece when it had not - the shotgun barrel did and had...

I believe DS Davidson regarding the fact that DI Cook handed him a paint sample at the scene on 8th August 1985, and that the reason for the paint sample (RC/1) being taken on that occasion, was because paint had been found on the end of a guns barrel (shotgun), a gun that had been found downstairs!
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #44 on: November 02, 2018, 08:31:PM »
Use of the shotgun in this shooting tragedy, has other possible implications...

Since, it could have been the shotgun blast in the kitchen which Neville Bamber was referring to when he contacted Jeremy prior to 3.26am, claiming that Sheila had got the gun and had gone crazy?
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