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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2018, 04:36:PM »
According to the pathologist, one of the two bullet entry wounds to Sheila Caffell's neck (the lower wound) was 1/4 diameter, whilst the other bullet wound (above) measured only 3/16 in diameter..

Bullet PV/20 caused the lower bullet entry wound (1/4), and bullet PV/19 the upper wound (3/16)
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2018, 04:39:PM »
The five victims had a variety of differently sized bullet wound diameters, ranging from 3/16, 1/4, and 1/2 inches...
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2018, 04:52:PM »
The five victims had a variety of differently sized bullet wound diameters, ranging from 3/16, 1/4, and 1/2 inches...
None of the 25 spent cartridge cases found at the scene were scientifically matched to individual bullets, despite the existence of a manufacturer's crimping marks, primer propellant and gun power compounds, lubricants being unique to a particular manufacturer...
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2018, 04:56:PM »
There was a marked absence of any follower plate marking found on any of the 25 spent bullet cases found at the scene, suggesting that some of the spent cartridge cases from the shootings may have been removed, only to be replaced by test fired control spent cartridge cases, so that the shootings could be put down as a one gun crime...
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2018, 05:01:PM »
There was a marked absence of any follower plate marking found on any of the 25 spent bullet cases found at the scene, suggesting that some of the spent cartridge cases from the shootings may have been removed, only to be replaced by test fired control spent cartridge cases, so that the shootings could be put down as a one gun crime...

As a matter of interest, the source for the replacement spent cartridge cases that could have been, or which were used in a mass substitution procedure could have come from the control ammunition subject of DRH/22...
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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2018, 05:14:PM »
What is also now known, and which might prove to be relevant to this matter, was that Essex police stated that they had destroyed all of the crime scene ammunition, but by some miracle PC Bernard came forward claiming that it had not been destroyed and that he had retained 'it' which ended up with the COLP investigators - this all seemed to me at the time to be highly suspicious, and it crossed my mind, that some of the genuine pieces of crime scene ammunition which had been used in a widescale substitution process may have been destroyed, and the batch which PC Bernard presented was the revised batch of crime scene ammunition, what was left over after test fired components of control ammunition had been test fired (post date of the shooting tragedy) in the anshuzt rifle as part of the plan to present these shootings as a one gun crime...
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2018, 05:16:PM »
What is also now known, and which might prove to be relevant to this matter, was that Essex police stated that they had destroyed all of the crime scene ammunition, but by some miracle PC Bernard came forward claiming that it had not been destroyed and that he had retained 'it' which ended up with the COLP investigators - this all seemed to me at the time to be highly suspicious, and it crossed my mind, that some of the genuine pieces of crime scene ammunition which had been used in a widescale substitution process may have been destroyed, and the batch which PC Bernard presented was the revised batch of crime scene ammunition, what was left over after test fired components of control ammunition had been test fired (post date of the shooting tragedy) in the anshuzt rifle as part of the plan to present these shootings as a one gun crime...

For this reason, I do not think it can be discounted that the Pargeter rifle (.22 bolt action rifle) wasn't used in the shootings!
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2018, 05:24:PM »
For this reason, I do not think it can be discounted that the Pargeter rifle (.22 bolt action rifle) wasn't used in the shootings!
I can say this with some conviction because COLP supposedly cleared up this matter in 1991 / 1992, when Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle, and his silencer were test fired, and the component parts of the test fired round (a) spent cartridge, and (b) bullet / projectile were compared against so called crime scene ammunition  and eliminated...

This is all well and good, had there been no suspicion that crime scene bullets and crime scene spent cartridge cases hadn't been tampered with, but as a result of what is now known, the Pargeter ammunition which got test fired in his rifle as part of the COLP investigation may well have been compared against dodgy corresponding pieces of crime scene ammunition, and not the original ammunition' which in the mean time had been subject of swapping over, and more recently which had been destroyed!
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2018, 05:28:PM »
This problem may have arose because of the ballistic experts failure to itemise the contents of DRH/22, into individual units which could have been uniquely identifiable making it more difficult for an unscrupulous person, or persons, to use some of the test fired control ammunition in a substitution procedure, to turn the shootings into a one gun crime...
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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2018, 05:34:PM »
This problem may have arose because of the ballistic experts failure to itemise the contents of DRH/22, into individual units which could have been uniquely identifiable making it more difficult for an unscrupulous person, or persons, to use some of the test fired control ammunition in a substitution procedure, to turn the shootings into a one gun crime...

Jeremy has always been adamant that Anthony Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle was present at white house farm on the evening / morning of the shootings! He included mention of 'it' in the diagram of the farmhouse, its occupants and firearms, a diagram that he handed to the police at the scene. He also told me on numerous occasions that his father who was Chairman of the Witham bench (Magistrate) would never have allowed Anthony Pargeter to remove his weapons which included his .22 bolt action rifle, and ammunitions away from the farmhouse because he would have been breaking the law!
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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2018, 05:34:PM »
Jeremy has always been adamant that Anthony Pargeters .22 bolt action rifle was present at white house farm on the evening / morning of the shootings! He included mention of 'it' in the diagram of the farmhouse, its occupants and firearms, a diagram that he handed to the police at the scene. He also told me on numerous occasions that his father who was Chairman of the Witham bench (Magistrate) would never have allowed Anthony Pargeter to remove his weapons which included his .22 bolt action rifle, and ammunitions away from the farmhouse because he would have been breaking the law!

I believe Jeremy's account..
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Re: Ballistics - spent bullet cases - the impossible comparison tests...
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2018, 05:46:PM »
This is one of the reasons why I think there were possibly three different weapons used, maybe as many as four in total, in these shootings!

Having said that / this...

I think that one of these weapons, that although the gun did get discharged, it damaged a ceiling light situated in the ceiling of the kitchen. It wasn't until after the 8th August 1985, that SOCO discovered that a shotgun had been discharged recently inside the kitchen. Cops used a metal detector and found all the pellets which had been discharged from a spent Raker Cartridge case found in the breech of a 12 bore shotgun in the downstairs office. When this shotgun was eventually fingerprinted the fingerprints of Sheila Caffell and Neville Bamber were found upon strategic parts of the shotguns barrel suggestive that there may have been a struggle involving both of them over control or the possession of the shotgun (either after a shot had been discharged from it, or just beforehand). In point of fact, the guns barrell which DS Davidson spoke to COLP about in his 1992 police interviews, where he talks about Cook handing him a paint sample (RC/1) at the scene on the 8th August 1985, was because some paint had been found on the end of a guns barrel, a gun which had been found downstairs at the farmhouse on that same date ( the 12 bore shotgun)!
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« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2018, 06:54:PM »
I believe DS Davidson's explanation to his COLP interviewers (1992) was an accurate account of the shotgun being the gun which had red paint from the kitchen aga, and that this gives a clear insight into how corrupt Essex police have been in this prosecution of Jeremy Bamber - any scratch marks on the kitchen aga at that stage were almost certainly caused by the end of the 12 bore shotgun with Sheila's and Neville's fingerprints upon it, coming into contact with 'it' I know how this can be proven or disproven, coming up next...
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2018, 06:42:AM »
I believe DS Davidson's explanation to his COLP interviewers (1992) was an accurate account of the shotgun being the gun which had red paint from the kitchen aga, and that this gives a clear insight into how corrupt Essex police have been in this prosecution of Jeremy Bamber - any scratch marks on the kitchen aga at that stage were almost certainly caused by the end of the 12 bore shotgun with Sheila's and Neville's fingerprints upon it, coming into contact with 'it' I know how this can be proven or disproven, coming up next...

A local resident (Smith) heard a shotgun blast at around 10pm on the evening 6th August 1985, come from the vicinity of white house farm - clue..
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2018, 07:28:AM »
A local resident (Smith) heard a shotgun blast at around 10pm on the evening 6th August 1985, come from the vicinity of white house farm - clue..

Cops were clearly interested in the 12 bore shotgun and the empty 12 bore cartridge case nestling it's chamber..

DI Cook removed the 12 bore shotgun from the gun cupboard in the downstairs office on the first morning of the shooting tragedy and stood it against the wall in the downstairs office, it had a marigold glove stretched over the end of its wooden stock! At that time, Cook did not realise the significance of this shotgun, it was not until the following day (by which time) that it was noticed or noted that ingrained onto the end of the shotguns barrell was red paint from the scratched kitchen mantlepiece...

Here is the shotgun alluded to, captured resting against the downstairs office wall  (the den) by PC Bird on the first morning of the police investigation...
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