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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #390 on: September 15, 2019, 04:18:AM »
I have just gone over Avery's confession to Evans and Brendan's confessions to police.

What Steven told Evans and what Brendan told police all lines up.

It seems to me that this sick man tricked Brendan into having sex with a corpse. And Brendan was too embarrassed to admit this and too dumb to realise how important that detail would have been. And thus he was unknowingly putting his confession in the wrong context. Making it seem he was involved in the murder. When he was actually an accessory after the fact.

Brendan Dassey is actually innocent of his 1st degree murder charge. Ironically his supporters will never see it that way.

Its no question to me that Avery is guilty. What I am questioning is the authenticity of the Evans confession letter. So -

How did Joseph Evans know that Teresa was shot five times while Brendan was not watching?

Brendan said

"he shot her five times and while he was doing that I wasn’t looking because I can’t watch that stuff"

Evans said

"when Brendan had went outside of the garage to keep watch, Steve had said that's when he had taken his .22 rifle and shot Teresa twice in the head, then in the heart and in the chest area, and and then in the vagina"

Both these accounts have Teresa being shot in the garage five times at one point with Brendan not watching. Could it be that Brendan told Steve he went out to keep watch because he didn't want to watch that stuff as per his statement above?

Now if someone was to argue that Joseph Evans got hold of Brendan's confessions from behind bars to construct this, that does not work because there are numerous things in Brendan's confessions that don't appear in Avery's alleged confession to Evans. Which, as fate would have it, Brendan admits to his mother that not everything that he said he done to Teresa was true, only some of it.  :o

"Janda: "You know what Brendan?"
Dassey: "What?"
Janda: "He did it. You do what you gotta do. So in those statements you did all that to her too?"
Dassey: "Some of it."
"


Evans said that Steven Avery was raping Teresa for an hour and a half before he called Brendan over. Now Brendan claims Steven Avery never told him that he had sex with her. But Brendan does say Steven Avery was very sweaty when he entered the trailer.

"He said that while Teresa was just laying there, he had sex with her over and over, then untied her and turned her over on to her stomach and proceeded to sodomized her. Steve said that he had Teresa in the bedroom performing his sexual acts to her for a good hour and a half."

If that is what Steven done, then that explains why he was so sweaty as Brendan reported when he saw him. Brendan gave no explanation for him being sweaty and that coincides with Avery telling Evans that he had not called Brendan over yet.

Evans wrote

"Steve said that Brendan promised to remain quiet and keep his mouth shut to everyone, then Brendan left the fire and went home. Steve said that he had remained out there by the fire for a few more hours and as it was dying down"

This corroborates Blaine Dassey's account of him seeing Steven Avery at 11:30pm alone by the bonfire alone.

Evans then wrote

"Steve had went on to tell me that he had taken some more items such as clothing of his, two rings of Teresa's that she was wearing at the time that he had killed her and a necklace that she was wearing as well that he had taken off of her, and also the kitchen knife and the shovel that he had used up to the Crivitz, WI area. "

Now we know Steven Avery was in Crivitz shortly after the murder because that's where he was when the news reporters interviewed him in 2005. I don't find it plausible that this guy would remember that insignificant detail from one news mention five years ago.

This is either a very carefully engineered ruse or its a genuine account. I know what I think.

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #391 on: September 17, 2019, 07:29:AM »
Not only do prison records corroborate Evans account. According to authorities there are more alleged prison confessions from Steven Avery.


"Evans says he and Avery struck up a friendship while both were serving their sentences at Wisconsin Secured Prison Facility located in Boscobel. Online Department of Corrections records show Evans and Avery were both housed at the Southwestern Wisconsin prison back in 2010 when Evans says these conversations took place."

"Then, four years later, in March of 2014, Evan writes and online records confirm, he and Avery were transferred on the same day to Waupun Correctional.”

"Law enforcement says letters like the one Evans wrote, claiming Avery has confessed to murder, have come in over the years. The letters are always turned over to the State Attorney General’s Office and investigations are conducted. The Attorney General’s office says it has no comment on those investigations. And Avery’s attorney, Kathleen Zellner, did not respond to requests for comment."
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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #392 on: September 17, 2019, 11:12:AM »
Evans was questioned by a news outlet not long after his letter. Evans said -

“All I know is that Steven told me step-by-step over time all that he did, in detail. I believe Steven did it because he told me he did it.”

I believe Evans.


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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #394 on: September 18, 2019, 05:43:PM »
https://www.youtube.com/redirect?redir_token=xidjcTrvTC16IQ4Y5T6s7QvuQkZ8MTU2ODg5Mjg1MkAxNTY4ODA2NDUy&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.uk%2Famp%2Fs%2Famp.postcrescent.com%2Famp%2F82586402&event=video_description&v=MO58BUiSlJY

Steven Avery's eyes prove he's guilty? No

    Victims bones in his burn pit.

    Victims clothes in his burn pit.

    Victims stuff in his burn barrel.

    Him having a bonfire in his burn pit the day the victim died.

    His blood in the victims car resembling the same blood in his own car (showing he has driven both)

    Murder weapon hung up above his bed.

    Victims car keys in his trailer.

    Victims DNA on the bullet found his garage where an eye witness saw him shoot her.

    Brendan admitting they both raped and killed her along with details only the guilty party could know.

    Avery calling her on *67 number twice before the murder and once after the murder without the  *67 number showing he was trying to create an alibi.

    The Van Avery got the victim to photograph not being on display for sale because Avery knows there will be no Auto trader advert because he killed the photographer.


That's what proves him guilty.  ::)
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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #395 on: September 18, 2019, 11:36:PM »
Here is another interesting point. Teresa had no Tattoos, investigators knew this. And Bluffed Brendan with the claim that she did have Tattoos. Yet he does not tell them that.

"FASSBENDER: did she have any scars, marks', tattoos, stuff like that, that you can remember?

BRENDAN: I don’t remember any tattoos. "


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"FASSBENDER: OK. (pause) We know that Teresa had a, a tattoo on her stomach, do you remember that?

BRENDAN: (shakes head “no”) uh uh"



So much for telling the police what they wanted to hear.


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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #396 on: September 20, 2019, 12:57:PM »
Steven Avery's eyes prove he's guilty? No

    Victims bones in his burn pit.

    Victims clothes in his burn pit.

    Victims stuff in his burn barrel.

    Him having a bonfire in his burn pit the day the victim died.

    His blood in the victims car resembling the same blood in his own car (showing he has driven both)

    Murder weapon hung up above his bed.

    Victims car keys in his trailer.

    Victims DNA on the bullet found his garage where an eye witness saw him shoot her.

    Brendan admitting they both raped and killed her along with details only the guilty party could know.

    Avery calling her on *67 number twice before the murder and once after the murder without the  *67 number showing he was trying to create an alibi.

    The Van Avery got the victim to photograph not being on display for sale because Avery knows there will be no Auto trader advert because he killed the photographer.


That's what proves him guilty.  ::)

anyone would know the details if the police told them the details.

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #397 on: September 20, 2019, 02:16:PM »
anyone would know the details if the police told them the details.

The police cannot tell him details they don't know.

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #398 on: September 20, 2019, 02:23:PM »
Here is another interesting point. Teresa had no Tattoos, investigators knew this. And Bluffed Brendan with the claim that she did have Tattoos. Yet he does not tell them that.

"FASSBENDER: did she have any scars, marks', tattoos, stuff like that, that you can remember?

BRENDAN: I don’t remember any tattoos. "


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"FASSBENDER: OK. (pause) We know that Teresa had a, a tattoo on her stomach, do you remember that?

BRENDAN: (shakes head “no”) uh uh"



So much for telling the police what they wanted to hear.


and wheres that from

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #399 on: September 20, 2019, 02:27:PM »

and wheres that from

Where is what from?

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #401 on: September 21, 2019, 01:31:AM »
https://youtu.be/AjQDt_HURQQ

Earl Avery saw Teresa come to ASL taking photos that day.

Bobby Dassey saw Teresa there also.

Steven Avery admits Teresa was there that day, but claims she left.

We know she never left because her bones were in his burn pit and her car keys in his house.

What does that video prove? Are you smoking crack or what?

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #402 on: September 21, 2019, 02:32:AM »

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« Reply #403 on: September 21, 2019, 02:15:PM »
Earl Avery saw Teresa come to ASL taking photos that day.

Bobby Dassey saw Teresa there also.

Steven Avery admits Teresa was there that day, but claims she left.

We know she never left because her bones were in his burn pit and her car keys in his house.

What does that video prove? Are you smoking crack or what?

i am not trying to prove anything i am just posting a video.

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #404 on: September 21, 2019, 04:09:PM »
https://streamable.com/kfrk3

it clicked on it its not playing.

thats not a confesion thats a cop talking about the confession.

a policeman cliaming he dident corce the suspect thats hardly convincing.
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