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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #120 on: October 28, 2018, 12:42:PM »
You haven't posted a link so that people can read it themselves or named the expert in question.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5691be1b25981daa98f417c8/t/56a6f91025981d11f5754db6/1453783312211/Steven-Avery-Lab-Report.pdf

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What trial are you talking about?

Steven Avery's trial!

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #121 on: October 28, 2018, 12:47:PM »
it should be , along with all the DNA from the bedroom where a supposed rape and torture took place including stabbing TH in the stomach and cutting her throat, not one iota of her blood was found there  ::)

but ive seen no mention of any forensic evidence linking to dassey

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #122 on: October 28, 2018, 12:51:PM »
if brenden daseys  confesion is genuine shouldent his dna be there as well.

No.

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #123 on: October 28, 2018, 01:03:PM »

Brendan Dassey tells the investigators that Steven shot TH with his .22 in the garage. Investigators later find a .22 bullet from Stevens rifle with her DNA on it in the garage.


Brendan Dassey tells investigators that Steven had moved the burned bones from the burn barrell to the burn pit. Later at Stevens trial the experts confirm that some of the bones had been moved to the burn pit.


Brendan Dassey tells investigators that he cleaned up the the spot where TH was shot with bleach. Investigators later find bleach stains on the clothes he was wearing that night.


Brendan Dassey tells investigators that Steven had lifted up a certain part of TH car. Investigators later find Stevens DNA in that exact same spot.


What are the chances of Brendan making up all these things that just so happened to be correct before the investigators even knew about them?  ::)









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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #124 on: October 28, 2018, 02:08:PM »
No.

are they not supposed to have taken turns raping her if so dasseys dna should certanly be there.

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« Reply #125 on: October 28, 2018, 02:16:PM »
are they not supposed to have taken turns raping her if so dasseys dna should certanly be there.

Bit difficult to extract a sperm sample from a rape victim thats been reduced to nothing but bones and ashes.

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #126 on: October 28, 2018, 02:53:PM »
Bit difficult to extract a sperm sample from a rape victim thats been reduced to nothing but bones and ashes.

Omg Davis you are way way behind! Stop talking rubbish and watch series 2. You are just arguing for arguments sake and winding people up. I never saw it before but I do now!

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #127 on: October 28, 2018, 02:55:PM »
Bit difficult to extract a sperm sample from a rape victim thats been reduced to nothing but bones and ashes.

hi dna should be in the trailer along with her dna.

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #128 on: October 28, 2018, 03:20:PM »
but ive seen no mention of any forensic evidence linking to dassey

that's because there is NO forensic evidence linking him to the crime.

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #129 on: October 28, 2018, 03:32:PM »
Omg Davis you are way way behind! Stop talking rubbish and watch series 2. You are just arguing for arguments sake and winding people up. I never saw it before but I do now!

Hate to say I told you so but .......  ;)
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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #130 on: October 28, 2018, 03:37:PM »
Omg Davis you are way way behind! Stop talking rubbish and watch series 2. You are just arguing for arguments sake and winding people up. I never saw it before but I do now!


No I am not. The target audience for this show is people who don't know anything about the case.

I have looked at all the facts and know the man is guilty as charged. You will have to pay me to sit through a second series of that dishonest and emotionally manipulative show.

PS: Tell me how you are supposed to get evidence of rape from a rape victim that is nothing but bones and ashes. How on earth do you do that?
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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #131 on: October 28, 2018, 03:47:PM »
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5691be1b25981daa98f417c8/t/56a6f91025981d11f5754db6/1453783312211/Steven-Avery-Lab-Report.pdf

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Steven Avery's trial!

Thanks BUT you stated yesterday that

And a expert at trial said he believe's the stain did come from a finger. There is already counter expert evidence to refute the guy you are quoting.

Where is this 'new' counter evidence to counter claim Stuart James? James conducted his experiments in recent years and stated this in his affidavit

"All opinions rendered in this affidavit are based on new bloodstain pattern recommended
terminology. Specifically, the use of velocity as a determinative characteristic of bloodstains was abandoned with the production of the Working Group on Bloodstain
Pattern Analysis ("SWGST AIN") terminology. Bloodstain analyst Nick Stahlke
("Stahlke") used velocity to define and interpret the bloodstain pattern observed on the
rear cargo door of Ms. Halbach's
RA V-4. TT:2/27:49."

So methods used in 2005 to interpret blood stain pattern have been abandoned but perhaps this 'new counter claim' you speak of will be more useful than the original findings?
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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #132 on: October 28, 2018, 03:50:PM »
that's because there is NO forensic evidence linking him to the crime.

but there should be if he did what he claims to have done

how come avery manages to leave dna and he doesnt.

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #133 on: October 28, 2018, 04:37:PM »
but there should be if he did what he claims to have done

how come avery manages to leave dna and he doesnt.


Because Brendans finger is not bleeding!

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix) Series Two
« Reply #134 on: October 28, 2018, 04:58:PM »
Thanks BUT you stated yesterday that

Where is this 'new' counter evidence to counter claim Stuart James? James conducted his experiments in recent years and stated this in his affidavit

"All opinions rendered in this affidavit are based on new bloodstain pattern recommended
terminology. Specifically, the use of velocity as a determinative characteristic of bloodstains was abandoned with the production of the Working Group on Bloodstain
Pattern Analysis ("SWGST AIN") terminology. Bloodstain analyst Nick Stahlke
("Stahlke") used velocity to define and interpret the bloodstain pattern observed on the
rear cargo door of Ms. Halbach's
RA V-4. TT:2/27:49."

So methods used in 2005 to interpret blood stain pattern have been abandoned but perhaps this 'new counter claim' you speak of will be more useful than the original findings?


I never said it was "new" I was explaining why Avery was denied a re-trial. And what would happen if such thing took place.

If such a senario took place Nick Stahlke would be called to testify again and say the same things. Stuart James would testify and it would be Nick Stahlke word against Stuart James. The Jury will then have to decied if Steven Avery is the killer or if this stealing blood from his sink and planting it in 15 minutes is plausible.

The same verdict is going to be reached. Guilty.

Nick Stahlke has similar credintials to Stuart James. You need to ask youself why a key expert witness like Nick Stahlke was never mentioned in the show. Because it didn't suit the narrative they wanted to portray.


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