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Offline gringo

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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2018, 10:56:PM »
surely he means I have the name of somebody I suspect of being the killer.

I don't see how you could be that certan.

but i admit gringo that the timimg is a bit suspicious.
  I don't know either, Nugs, just asking the question. After reading your link I did a quick search on MWT restricted to the last week and this story popped up. I will have a delve further later.
    It is certainly a bold move to announce this on TV if he is bluffing/lying. There are legitimate concerns surrounding the Jill Dando murder and more than a hint of cover up.

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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2018, 11:42:PM »
its an  easy cliam to make if you dont name anybody

if are makin it up nobody can prove it.

im sure he probely does have the cname of a suspect but hes probely exagerating the evdence he has agianst that suspect.

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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2018, 10:34:AM »
its an  easy cliam to make if you dont name anybody

if are makin it up nobody can prove it.

im sure he probely does have the cname of a suspect but hes probely exagerating the evdence he has agianst that suspect.
               https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/feb/24/mark-williams-thomas-jimmy-savile

   It is a sensational claim to make but the Savile documentary was also full of sensational and ultimately true claims, so to be fair to MWT he has probably earned the right to be given the benefit of the doubt in these matters.
   Those currently smearing didn't run any Savile exposes throughout Saviles years of abuse and cover up.

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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2018, 11:47:AM »
               https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/feb/24/mark-williams-thomas-jimmy-savile

   It is a sensational claim to make but the Savile documentary was also full of sensational and ultimately true claims, so to be fair to MWT he has probably earned the right to be given the benefit of the doubt in these matters.
   Those currently smearing didn't run any Savile exposes throughout Saviles years of abuse and cover up.

a lot of his Savile claims have debunked.

mind you to be fair he dident make the claims ho published them.
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2018, 12:10:PM »
   Is MWT perhaps ruffling feathers and needs discrediting?
   He claims to have the name of the hitman hired to kill Jill Dando.

The names are no secret. The Serbian authorities have evidence against these men as the perpetrators.

They are all former mercenaries of the Miloševic government and IIRC some if not all of them are in hiding and have not been seen for many years. They are wanted for all kinds of dirty work they were hired to carry out.



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"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2018, 12:23:PM »
a lot of his Savile claims have debunked.

mind you to be fair he dident make the claims ho published them.
   Which Savile claims have been debunked?

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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2018, 12:25:PM »
The names are no secret. The Serbian authorities have evidence against these men as the perpetrators.

They are all former mercenaries of the Miloševic government and IIRC some if not all of them are in hiding and have not been seen for many years. They are wanted for all kinds of dirty work they were hired to carry out.


   Cheers will have a look. Are you certain that one of these is the name MWT claims to have?

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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2018, 12:27:PM »
Always on the hop for a conspiracy theory!  ::)  If he has got the name, he should be doing something about it instead of courting celebrity!

Isn't that rather like those who've been claiming, for years, to hold the key to Jeremy's freedom, and choosing to keep it to themselves?

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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2018, 12:31:PM »
The names are no secret. The Serbian authorities have evidence against these men as the perpetrators.

They are all former mercenaries of the Miloševic government and IIRC some if not all of them are in hiding and have not been seen for many years. They are wanted for all kinds of dirty work they were hired to carry out.



oh so its recycled old bollocks about the serbs is it.

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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2018, 12:36:PM »
   Which Savile claims have been debunked?

well half the people who cliamed he absused them have been chardged with fraud.

one of the orginal acusers would of been 24 at the time not 14

he dident spend one new year with maggie thather let alone 11.

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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2018, 12:59:PM »
   Cheers will have a look. Are you certain that one of these is the name MWT claims to have?

I don't know. But if MWTs guy is not one of these. Then MWT is probably wrong. Its been a while since I read about this so I am going by memory here. IIRC the Serbian authorities passed the details of these guys to the UK police not long ago. The UK police were not interested (for obvious reasons) and just didn't chase anything up.

I think these people all worked together in one way or another. Anyway if anyone knows who was behind it. It would be the Serbian authorities. The successor government to the government that ordered the shooting.
"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2018, 01:03:PM »
well half the people who cliamed he absused them have been chardged with fraud.

one of the orginal acusers would of been 24 at the time not 14

he dident spend one new year with maggie thather let alone 11.
  Are you suggesting that Savile's crimes are exaggerated?  There are realms of evidence of massive wide scale abuse against Savile and likewise reams of evidence that police forces were warned off these investigations by darker forces within the Intelligence services.
    As far as I am aware the claims against Savile have been far from debunked. There are many questions left unanswered still in the whole sorry mess, not the least of which is why he was protected throughout his life by dark forces within the Intelligence Services.

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« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2018, 01:15:PM »
   Cheers will have a look. Are you certain that one of these is the name MWT claims to have?

Well according to you, unless the guy in question backs up the claim he killed JD - it’s just hearsay.

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« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2018, 01:19:PM »
  Are you suggesting that Savile's crimes are exaggerated?  There are realms of evidence of massive wide scale abuse against Savile and likewise reams of evidence that police forces were warned off these investigations by darker forces within the Intelligence services.
    As far as I am aware the claims against Savile have been far from debunked. There are many questions left unanswered still in the whole sorry mess, not the least of which is why he was protected throughout his life by dark forces within the Intelligence Services.

theres very little evedence if you actully scrutinise the cliams made.

have a read of this blog the sites plenty of sources to back up his claims http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.com/http://jimcannotfixthis.blogspot.com/

and look at the actull documents.



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« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2018, 01:29:PM »
  Are you suggesting that Savile's crimes are exaggerated?  There are realms of evidence of massive wide scale abuse against Savile and likewise reams of evidence that police forces were warned off these investigations by darker forces within the Intelligence services.
    As far as I am aware the claims against Savile have been far from debunked. There are many questions left unanswered still in the whole sorry mess, not the least of which is why he was protected throughout his life by dark forces within the Intelligence Services.

I actually do think the Savile's crimes are exaggerated. But of course the abuse scandal was real. I think the best way to put it is once the snake was exposed many false claims and media frenzy have made the snake seem like a dragon. Having sex with deadpeople in mortuaries and taking body parts I dont think happened. Even if half the people who have claimed to have been molested are lying the other half of genuine victims is still a scandalous number of victims.
"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."