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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #345 on: July 17, 2018, 05:39:PM »




Which would be about midnight or thereabouts as it can take a few hours before a body is as stiff as it appears to be.


"................or thereabouts................" "...............it CAN take a few hours....................." All a bit lose.

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« Reply #346 on: July 17, 2018, 05:41:PM »





Which means that Nevill wouldn't have been moved ?

Well, it's unlikely to have been moved after RM. What would have been the point?
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« Reply #347 on: July 17, 2018, 06:12:PM »
Well, it's unlikely to have been moved after RM. What would have been the point?






So what time would he have died before RM had set in as per the photographs ? In other words what time did the murders take place ? Soon after JB had left ?

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« Reply #348 on: July 17, 2018, 06:15:PM »

So what time would he have died before RM had set in as per the photographs ? In other words what time did the murders take place ? Soon after JB had left ?


"The typical timeline is that rigor mortis begins to be noticeable within a couple
of hours after death, reaching a maximum around 6–12 hours, give or take several
hours, and then it slowly dissipates over the next day or so."

Forensic Pathology for Police, Death Investigators, Attorneys, and Forensic Scientists
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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #349 on: July 17, 2018, 06:20:PM »





So what time would he have died before RM had set in as per the photographs ? In other words what time did the murders take place ? Soon after JB had left ?

Ha! Lookout, I don't believe myself to be more knowledgeable than the experts -even they won't go any further than an estimated time of death- but I can throw in the variables, ie age, weight, health, physical condition of deceased, method of death, ambient room temperature etc, etc, etc..................

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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #350 on: July 17, 2018, 06:23:PM »
if those burns were not coused by the hot end of the riffle what did couse them.

and why ould jeremy need to move neviles body.

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« Reply #351 on: July 17, 2018, 06:26:PM »
Ha! Lookout, I don't believe myself to be more knowledgeable than the experts -even they won't go any further than an estimated time of death- but I can throw in the variables, ie age, weight, health, physical condition of deceased, method of death, ambient room temperature etc, etc, etc..................






So how did Nevill's body appear to move forward ? He'd have died seated and not bent forward as pictured.

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« Reply #352 on: July 17, 2018, 06:36:PM »





So how did Nevill's body appear to move forward ? He'd have died seated and not bent forward as pictured.


Perhaps the force of the beating caused it? There must have been a hell of a lot of "Die, damn you" behind it.

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« Reply #353 on: July 17, 2018, 06:40:PM »
if those burns were not coused by the hot end of the riffle what did couse them.


Something that is the same size and same shape of the rifle muzzle.  ;D

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Re: Nevills burns revisited.
« Reply #354 on: July 17, 2018, 06:45:PM »

Perhaps the force of the beating caused it? There must have been a hell of a lot of "Die, damn you" behind it.

you cant burn somone with your fists.

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« Reply #355 on: July 17, 2018, 06:56:PM »

Perhaps the force of the beating caused it? There must have been a hell of a lot of "Die, damn you" behind it.

Is this Sheila's "strength of Goliath" you are referring to?

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« Reply #356 on: July 17, 2018, 06:58:PM »

Perhaps the force of the beating caused it? There must have been a hell of a lot of "Die, damn you" behind it.






Nope.

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« Reply #357 on: July 17, 2018, 07:00:PM »
you cant burn somone with your fists.


Well done! You can't........................But I never mentioned "fists".

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« Reply #358 on: July 17, 2018, 07:01:PM »

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« Reply #359 on: July 17, 2018, 07:05:PM »

Oh!! So you WERE there?






No but you're the expert ?