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Offline mike tesko

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The hand written version of the Scenes of crime register has still not yet been disclosed, despite over 33 years since the time of the tragedy having elapsed - instead an edited typed version, of which the contents of the very first page are very telling, and highly significant...
« Last Edit: June 08, 2018, 09:31:AM by mike tesko »
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'The 2nd team of SOCO who attended the incident (Davidson, Hammersley, Bird and Cook), no mention of the 1st team of SOCO (DC HENDERSON and DC OAKEY) and the role they played in the re-staging of the crime scene under the watchful eye of senior Essex police detectives, Jones, Harris, Gibbons, Clarke, Miller, Montgomery, and others, during the practice / exercise known as or referred to as 'INFORMATIVES' which were performed between around 9.00am and 10.00am on the first morning of the police investigation...
« Last Edit: June 08, 2018, 08:13:PM by mike tesko »
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SOCO should also have used their skills in judging how long Sheila had been dead by the state of the pool of blood near her neck. Investigators look for its appearance to give them an idea of time of death such as if the blood appeared shiny and gelatinous then death had been somewhere around an hour or so. Should the blood appear to clot and serum appears then several hours have passed.
In Sheila's case it would appear to be the former as photographs dictate.

 

 

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SOCO should also have used their skills in judging how long Sheila had been dead by the state of the pool of blood near her neck. Investigators look for its appearance to give them an idea of time of death such as if the blood appeared shiny and gelatinous then death had been somewhere around an hour or so. Should the blood appear to clot and serum appears then several hours have passed.
In Sheila's case it would appear to be the former as photographs dictate.

It's not a SOCO's role to guess at TOD. You can see for the 'genuine' photographs that the blood is dark and dry. I find it hard to believe that anyone could argue differently - the photo shows dried, cracking and flaking blood and yet people still argue differently.
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It's not a SOCO's role to guess at TOD. You can see for the 'genuine' photographs that the blood is dark and dry. I find it hard to believe that anyone could argue differently - the photo shows dried, cracking and flaking blood and yet people still argue differently.





Thin streaks of blood such as those each side of her mouth would have dried in minutes but the pool of blood near her neck/shoulder shows up evenly spread and shiny.

Aren't SOCO members investigators ?

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Thin streaks of blood such as those each side of her mouth would have dried in minutes but the pool of blood near her neck/shoulder shows up evenly spread and shiny.

Aren't SOCO members investigators ?

Isn't there a difference between medical investigation and SOC investigation?

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Isn't there a difference between medical investigation and SOC investigation?





Because there wasn't a forensic investigator present at the scene a cursory glance was all Dr Craig did. He in turn would then pass on his findings to the SOCO whose job it is is to investigate the bodies as well as to estimate T.O.D and also other involvements  concerning the deaths.

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Because there wasn't a forensic investigator present at the scene a cursory glance was all Dr Craig did. He in turn would then pass on his findings to the SOCO whose job it is is to investigate the bodies as well as to estimate T.O.D and also other involvements  concerning the deaths.

If it's not a Doctor's job to estimate time of death, I doubt it's in SOCO's remit.

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Thin streaks of blood such as those each side of her mouth would have dried in minutes but the pool of blood near her neck/shoulder shows up evenly spread and shiny.

Aren't SOCO members investigators ?

The dried blood around her mouth with no sign of any spluttering, shows she has been a dead for quite some time. The blood pooled in her armpit is also dark. The picture promoted by the Italian is a fraud.
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The dried blood around her mouth with no sign of any spluttering, shows she has been a dead for quite some time. The blood pooled in her armpit is also dark. The picture promoted by the Italian is a fraud.






Because there's no sign of spluttering means that it was passive bleeding given her lateral position and not necessarily that she had been dead for any length of time.

The pics of Sheilas " red blood " would have been taken with a proper camera used in the medical profession.

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Re: The Undisclosed - handwritten, 'SCENES OF CRIME REGISTER ENTRIES'
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2018, 02:29:PM »





Because there's no sign of spluttering means that it was passive bleeding given her lateral position and not necessarily that she had been dead for any length of time.

The pics of Sheilas " red blood " would have been taken with a proper camera used in the medical profession.

Not like the ones used by SOCO when they estimate time of death, then?

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Re: The Undisclosed - handwritten, 'SCENES OF CRIME REGISTER ENTRIES'
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2018, 02:32:PM »
Not like the ones used by SOCO when they estimate time of death, then?





Yes they use the same cameras or should do to get a clearer picture not a grainy one.

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Re: The Undisclosed - handwritten, 'SCENES OF CRIME REGISTER ENTRIES'
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Because there's no sign of spluttering means that it was passive bleeding given her lateral position and not necessarily that she had been dead for any length of time.

The pics of Sheilas " red blood " would have been taken with a proper camera used in the medical profession.

They were taken by PC Bird, there was NO medical photographer!  ::)
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Re: The Undisclosed - handwritten, 'SCENES OF CRIME REGISTER ENTRIES'
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2018, 05:13:PM »
They were taken by PC Bird, there was NO medical photographer!  ::)






The camera would have been-------it was no Brownie box camera. ::)

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Re: The Undisclosed - handwritten, 'SCENES OF CRIME REGISTER ENTRIES'
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2018, 06:39:PM »





The camera would have been-------it was no Brownie box camera. ::)

It was a bog standard SOCO camera!
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