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Offline Adam

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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2018, 06:33:PM »
There may have been a financial incentive, had Sheila survived, as a benefactor of the parents estate(s)..

I thought the plan was for Sheila & her accomplice to kill 5 members of her family & assist Sheila commit suicide ?
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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2018, 06:35:PM »
SHEILA did not plan on luring JEREMY to WHF to his potential death at the hands of 'the accomplice'.

This was part of 'the accomplice's' modus operandi.

Hence why I am certain it was a type of 'honeytrap' scenario by 'the accomplice' on behalf of the RELATIVES.

A 'honeytrap' for SHEILA.

Was the plan for Sheila & her accomplice to just kill everyone at WHF, then Sheila kill herself ?

What changed that made a fully fit Nevill call Jeremy ?
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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2018, 06:39:PM »
SHEILA did not plan on luring JEREMY to WHF to his potential death at the hands of 'the accomplice'.

This was part of 'the accomplice's' modus operandi.

Hence why I am certain it was a type of 'honeytrap' scenario by 'the accomplice' on behalf of the RELATIVES.

A 'honeytrap' for SHEILA.

The RELATIVES taking advantage of a deeply disturbed young women.
Using SHEILA for their own evil means.
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Offline Nigel

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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2018, 07:32:PM »
The RELATIVES taking advantage of a deeply disturbed young women.
Using SHEILA for their own evil means.

An extremely disturbed vulnerable young lady, used like a pawn in a chess game.
I slow down for a speeding police car, don't you?

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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2018, 07:36:PM »
An extremely disturbed vulnerable young lady, used like a pawn in a chess game.
Yes and the Life Master is banged up where he belongs.

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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2018, 07:40:PM »
Didn't Roland Pargeter visit a psych who'd told him that 3 people had been responsible for the deaths ?

He could just have had a " Rolie  " too many ?

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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2018, 07:45:PM »
Yes and the Life Master is banged up where he belongs.

Not for long.
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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2018, 07:53:PM »
What became of the loose bullet found in an envelope by Richard Wood-----in the garage where the Citroen was kept ? It's these little forgotten snippets that never came to light like fingerprinting of the said bullet.

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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2018, 05:33:PM »
Everything is falling into place. Thanks to Mike & Nigel -

Sheila had an accomplice. That man was Ralph Nevill.

Sheila & Ralph engaged in the fields a few hours before the massacre. Sheila was delivering sandwiches, Jeremy was on his tractor.

June was shot first.  A fully fit Nevill was then frog marched to the kitchen, to phone Jeremy & then Chelmsford police 16/26 minutes later.

The kitchen fight then took place. Nevill did not return upstairs.

Ralph slipped away unseen after realising the police were arriving before Jeremy.
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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2018, 05:37:PM »
David's theory that a sedated Sheila suddenly became an enraged GI Jane, bare footed in her nightie, at 3am has always been impossible to believe.

David claiming there was no kitchen fight & Nevill rang Jeremy after Sheila started shooting the twins, just made things worse.

Sheila had to have an accomplice.
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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2018, 06:42:PM »
David's theory that a sedated Sheila suddenly became an enraged GI Jane, bare footed in her nightie, at 3am has always been impossible to believe.

David claiming there was no kitchen fight & Nevill rang Jeremy after Sheila started shooting the twins, just made things worse.

Sheila had to have an accomplice.

Sheila was not “sedated”. The pathologist and the doctor both testified her dosage was low. You have been caught out in this lie enough times Adam.


Now I guess you will run and hide behind the moderators once again.
"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2018, 06:59:PM »
87.

Thereafter Sheila Caffell received monthly injections of Haloperidol, a drug used to treat agitated states which had anti-psychotic and tranquillising properties. It also has sedative side effects at the levels prescribed.


148.

Sheila Caffell, probably in a sedated state from her medication, was also shot in the bedroom.
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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2018, 08:13:PM »
Sheila was not “sedated”. The pathologist and the doctor both testified her dosage was low. You have been caught out in this lie enough times Adam.


Now I guess you will run and hide behind the moderators once again.
There's no evidence she had much energy from the party the previous Saturday until her death the following Wednesday.

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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2018, 09:16:PM »
87.

Thereafter Sheila Caffell received monthly injections of Haloperidol, a drug used to treat agitated states which had anti-psychotic and tranquillising properties. It also has sedative side effects at the levels prescribed.


148.

Sheila Caffell, probably in a sedated state from her medication, was also shot in the bedroom.

That does not refute the detailed testimony of both doctors. The levels in her system at the time was low.

For the record you are also using the strawman.


"A straw man is a logical fallacy which occurs when a debater intentionally misrepresents their opponent's argument as a weaker version, and rebuts said version — rather than their opponent's genuine argument. Intentional strawmanning is usually done with a certain goal in mind, including:

1.Avoiding real debate against an opponent's real argument, because the misrepresenter risks losing in fair debate

2.Making the opponent's position appear ridiculous as a way of poisoning the well"
"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

Offline Adam

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Re: Who was Sheila's accomplice ?
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2018, 09:32:PM »
David focusing on the poster again. Quoting something which is nothing to do with the COA. This time not 'gish gash', but something to do with 'straw man' I haven't read.

He can't dispute the COA's two sources.

He is lucky he is allowed to goad and focus on the guilter, rather than what the guilter posts.

Not sure why he believes he has to be the 'Blue Bamber fire fighter'.  Surfacing whenever a guilter posts & focusing on the guilter. Bamber wants nothing to do with him.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.