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Offline Jane

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #150 on: June 04, 2018, 07:58:PM »





Makes you wonder why the same can't be done today.

That's a hell of a lot of working hours, though. I'm not privy to all the mistakes made, but I know there were some.Thankfully, their 5 children all turned out splendidly.

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« Reply #151 on: June 05, 2018, 01:50:AM »





You won't get anywhere surmising how I think !
This was said in the late 80's early 90's when I had the greatest respect for the police,especially those who were on the beat in the area where they knew they could get a good cup of tea and biccies too.

You had the greatest respect for the police in the late 80s and early 90s, when Hillsborough was in April 1989!

Please tell me you're not being serious????

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« Reply #152 on: June 05, 2018, 09:57:AM »
You had the greatest respect for the police in the late 80s and early 90s, when Hillsborough was in April 1989!

Please tell me you're not being serious????






I can't do right for doing wrong can I ?? ::)
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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #153 on: June 05, 2018, 11:27:AM »





I can't do right for doing wrong can I ?? ::)

Was a simple question.

If u were being honest and you stand by what u said then that’s your call.

Personally, I wouldn’t dream of making such a claim given my connections to Liverpool and the abhorent actions of certain members of police in April 1989.

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« Reply #154 on: June 05, 2018, 11:29:AM »
Was a simple question.

If u were being honest and you stand by what u said then that’s your call.

Personally, I wouldn’t dream of making such a claim given my connections to Liverpool and the abhorent actions of certain members of police in April 1989.





" Certain members of police "-------------I don't generalise !! Do you ??

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« Reply #155 on: June 05, 2018, 11:35:AM »




" Certain members of police "-------------I don't generalise !! Do you ??

You don’t generalise? So does that mean that you did indeed have the greatest of respect for the police in late 80s and early 90s, irrespective of Hillsborough?

My opinions towards the police from 1989 onwards were negative given what they had done at Hillsborough. This is obviously said with the caveat that I was very young at the time so my opinions were shaped by family influences and experiences of people who had been at the game.
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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #156 on: June 05, 2018, 11:40:AM »
You don’t generalise? So does that mean that you did indeed have the greatest of respect for the police in late 80s and early 90s, irrespective of Hillsborough?

My opinions towards the police from 1989 onwards were negative given what they had done at Hillsborough. This is obviously said with the caveat that I was very young at the time so my opinions were shaped my family influences and experiences of people who had been at the game.





Unless you didn't notice I indexed " certain members of police " meaning just them along with those incompetents known as the Essex police !
I would have said the mid 80's onward as EP had set a precedent to expect the worse in policing.

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #157 on: June 05, 2018, 11:45:AM »





You won't get anywhere surmising how I think !
This was said in the late 80's early 90's when I had the greatest respect for the police,especially those who were on the beat in the area where they knew they could get a good cup of tea and biccies too.

On the beat in the late 80's and 90's?  ???
Few people have the imagination for reality

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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #158 on: June 05, 2018, 11:50:AM »




Unless you didn't notice I indexed " certain members of police " meaning just them along with those incompetents known as the Essex police !
I would have said the mid 80's onward as EP had set a precedent to expect the worse in policing.

So are you saying that in the late 80s and early 90s you had the greatest respect for SOME members of police but not for other members of police from Essex and South Yorkshire?

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« Reply #159 on: June 05, 2018, 12:07:PM »
So are you saying that in the late 80s and early 90s you had the greatest respect for SOME members of police but not for other members of police from Essex and South Yorkshire?





Particularly those who I knew personally on the Cheshire side where I live.To date I don't like the Liverpool police !
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« Reply #160 on: June 05, 2018, 12:12:PM »
Neither am I impressed with some of the Cheshire police either.

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« Reply #161 on: June 05, 2018, 12:46:PM »




" Certain members of police "-------------I don't generalise !! Do you ??


I'm afraid you're wrong there, Lookout. I guess that's what comes of only having the ability to see things in terms of black or white. Those "sweeping statements" that you're so fond of making are just  generalizations. Life doesn't fall into the one size fits all category.

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« Reply #162 on: June 05, 2018, 12:48:PM »
Neither am I impressed with some of the Cheshire police either.


And as for Essex police.....................

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« Reply #163 on: June 05, 2018, 12:59:PM »

And as for Essex police.....................

I think tarring the whole of Essex police with the same brush based on what you think about the Bamber case might just fall under the category of a 'generalisation'?
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Re: Sheila and one other were responsible......
« Reply #164 on: June 05, 2018, 01:09:PM »
I think tarring the whole of Essex police with the same brush based on what you think about the Bamber case might just fall under the category of a 'generalisation'?

Undoubtedly so.