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Re: Mike Tyson
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2018, 03:36:PM »
ali was over the hill whn holmes stoped him and holmes was over the hill when tyson foght him he had just come oout of reterment.

Anyone who stops Mohammed Ali, whether he is past his peak or not, is a very very good boxer.

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Re: Mike Tyson
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2018, 03:42:PM »
Anyone who stops Mohammed Ali, whether he is past his peak or not, is a very very good boxer.

i dont dispute larry holmes was good but i foubt he would of beat ali in his prime.

ali had the beginings of parkinsons when he fought holmes.

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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2018, 12:12:PM »
who did he beat that was any good.


Larry Holmes, Frank Bruno and Razor Ruddock.


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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2018, 02:44:PM »

Larry Holmes, Frank Bruno and Razor Ruddock.

well ruddick ill give you and homes was good but consdreble older than tyson when thy fught and bruno i woudent describ as a oood fighter let alone a great one.


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Re: Mike Tyson
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2018, 04:13:PM »
Holmes was 38 & had been out of boxing for nearly two years, having retired after two consecutive losses to Michael Spinks. 

Ruddock's two best fights were against Tyson, where he went the distance against a past his best Tyson, but didn't do much else. Ruddock then lost in two against Lewis.

Bruno was a respected fighter but would always lose when moving up a level.

However a pre Buster Douglas/ prison Tyson could have beaten anyone in my view.
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2018, 04:29:PM »
Bruno was a respected fighter but would always lose when moving up a level.

Bruno was slightly ahead of Lennox Lewis on the scorecards until Lewis KOed him in the 6th with illegal tactics. He was also the first to wobble Tyson in thier first fight. Very underrated fighter IMO.

Holmes was 38 & had been out of boxing for nearly two years, having retired after two consecutive losses to Michael Spinks. 

A much older Larry Holmes went the distance with Evander Holyfied in the early 90s. While prime Tyson anhiliated the younger Lary Holmes in four rounds. It just goes to show how much Tyson had declined when he fought Holyfied.

Tyson remains the only person to ever knock out Larry Holmes.
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2018, 04:33:PM »
However a pre Buster Douglas/ prison Tyson could have beaten anyone in my view.

Even Vitali Klitschko?
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2018, 04:47:PM »
Even Vitali Klitschko?

Yes, 'could have'. We'll never know.

Was watching some George Foreman Youtube videos recently. His 1980's & 90's fights.

People laughed at him but he wobbled Holyfield & Tommy Morrison prior to beating Micheal Moorer. He also hurt Shannon Briggs in his last fight.

Foreman could knock out an opponent with a straight jab.
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Re: Mike Tyson
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2018, 04:29:AM »
Putting things into perspective.
In his prime Tyson struggled against Bonecrusher Smith. But in his Prime Tyson knocked out an aging Larry Holmes, woopey do.
In his prime Tyson would never have beaten Lewis in his prime.
Most all time greats have the odd fight where they under estimate their opponent, Ali in his Prime was almost knocked out by Henry Cooper after which, Ali finished him off.
An aging Ali beat Foreman when in his prime. Tyson in his prime lost to Buster Douglas, Hollyfield beat Douglas shortly after.

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Re: Mike Tyson
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2018, 10:21:AM »
Putting things into perspective.
In his prime Tyson struggled against Bonecrusher Smith. But in his Prime Tyson knocked out an aging Larry Holmes, woopey do.
In his prime Tyson would never have beaten Lewis in his prime.
Most all time greats have the odd fight where they under estimate their opponent, Ali in his Prime was almost knocked out by Henry Cooper after which, Ali finished him off.
An aging Ali beat Foreman when in his prime. Tyson in his prime lost to Buster Douglas, Hollyfield beat Douglas shortly after.

he was also only fihting dougless becouse he was duckin holfeild people say he wwould of beat holfeild in his prime but if thats the case why did he duck ut of fighting. him