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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2017, 01:43:PM »
Maxine Carr was prosecuted & spent 18 months in prison for perverting the course of justice. Posters have said if Maxine Carr was prosecuted, so should Julie have been. However there are a lot of differences -


Carr gave Huntley a false alibi which she maintained for 11 days.  She was over a 100 miles away when Huntley committed her crime.

Carr asked Huntley not to go to the police as she may lose her teaching job. She would have maintained her false alibi for weeks, months or years unless the police found out.

Carr helped clean Huntley's property where the murders took place after the murders.

Carr helped dispose of the two bodies.

Carr said it was her idea to give a false alibi.

Carr did not approach the police to tell them the truth. The police got forensic evidence against Huntley & Carr confessed over 11 days later.

Huntley told Carr he was responsible, rather than a third person.

The police got Carr's & then Huntley's confessions. They did not need Carr to assist them as a prosecuting witness for a man pleading 'not guilty'. 

Huntleys crime was spontaneous & not planned. He had not spent 18 months telling Carr of his plans & reasons. The police did not need Carr to tell the jury of this, as they did with Julie.

Huntley had confessed pre trial, rather than pleaded not guilty. All that remained to be discussed was whether it was deliberate or not. Carr could not assist them here as she was not present when the murders took place.

Carr had not told anyone else what she knew & there is no evidence she was building up to approach the police & make a confession.

Huntley did not insist Carr spent all her time with him after the murders & did not take her abroad.

Carr was interviewed on television prior to Huntley being a suspect.


So what  law are you actually querying ? perverting the course of justice by not handing Jeremy over to the police on the first day when she admitted she knew what he had done ?

Or the possibility she could have been an accessory ?

two different things

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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2017, 01:45:PM »
I had no idea that she'd helped him dispose of the bodies. I can't remember the time frame but I do recall that she was away when it occurred.

she could not of helped him dispose of the bodys becouse she wasnt there at the time.

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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2017, 01:55:PM »
theres no evdence she helped him clean the crime scene thats completly untrue she was convicted of giving a false albi that was all.

and the very big diffrence is maxine gave an albi to somone she thought was innocent mugford if you belive her story was doing it for somone she knew was guilty.

''Next day the search for the girls continued. During a break, a junior caretaker went into Mr Huntley and Ms Carr's house for a drink. He claimed Ms Carr was in the kitchen scrubbing the tiles so hard that she was complaining she was rubbing the pattern off.

The jury has been told that Mr Huntley "sanitised" his car by cleaning it thoroughly and when police visited the house the girls' disappearance they noticed a strong smell of a "lemony cleaning product".

'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2017, 01:58:PM »
"On 16 August, 12 days after the girls went missing, Huntley and Carr were first questioned by police and agreed to give witness statements during seven hours of questioning before being released."

Surely this was a good time for Carr to come clean. But no, she didn't budge.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2017, 01:59:PM »
maxine carr was in another town at the time of the murders so coldent of been in any way involved in the murders.

or the imedate cover up of them.

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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2017, 02:06:PM »
''Next day the search for the girls continued. During a break, a junior caretaker went into Mr Huntley and Ms Carr's house for a drink. He claimed Ms Carr was in the kitchen scrubbing the tiles so hard that she was complaining she was rubbing the pattern off.

The jury has been told that Mr Huntley "sanitised" his car by cleaning it thoroughly and when police visited the house the girls' disappearance they noticed a strong smell of a "lemony cleaning product".

where did you get that from source please.

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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2017, 02:07:PM »
she could not of helped him dispose of the bodys becouse she wasnt there at the time.

Agreed. However, it didn't appear to have stopped her helping him to clean up the car afterwards.

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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2017, 02:09:PM »
"Carr then agreed to tell police she was having a bath inside the house while he spoke to the girls.

It was a story she would stick to for eight weeks after the couple were arrested.

Carr would only cut herself off from Huntley, who was she was to describe as a ‘thing’ in court after months in Holloway Prison listening to shouts of ‘nonce".


Only 18 months in prison for lying for 8 weeks to cover for a child sex killer by giving a false alibi ?

The police would have been lucky to get a 3 month suspended for Julie.

« Last Edit: August 07, 2017, 02:11:PM by Adam »
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2017, 02:10:PM »
s fearing his DNA could be traced.

The charred remains of the football shirt

Carr then agreed to tell police she was having a bath inside the house while he spoke to the girls.

It was a story she would stick to for eight weeks after the couple were arrested.

Carr would only cut herself off from Huntley, who was she was to describe as a ‘thing’ in court after months in Holloway Prison listening to shouts of ‘nonce".


Only 18 months in prison for lying for 8 weeks to cover for a child sex killer ?

The police would have been lucky to get a 3 month suspended for Julie.

source please


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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2017, 02:14:PM »
Agreed. However, it didn't appear to have stopped her helping him to clean up the car afterwards.

he had allready cleaned it of incrimating evdence.

as they were living together im sure helped him do loads of house hold tasks on a reguler basis.

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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2017, 02:22:PM »
"Richard Latham, QC, prosecuting, said Huntley, 29, went to great lengths to transform his car - changing "perfectly good" tyres, replacing carpet in the boot and cleaning it thoroughly inside and out.

He also cleaned his house at No 5 College Close and Maxine Carr, his fiancée, joined in - scrubbing wall tiles until she thought the pattern was being removed."

'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2017, 02:26:PM »
"Richard Latham, QC, prosecuting, said Huntley, 29, went to great lengths to transform his car - changing "perfectly good" tyres, replacing carpet in the boot and cleaning it thoroughly inside and out.

He also cleaned his house at No 5 College Close and Maxine Carr, his fiancée, joined in - scrubbing wall tiles until she thought the pattern was being removed."

theres no evdence she what she doing as far as she was concerned she was just helping him clean the house.

and theres absulutlty no proof to the contary.

we dont reall know what tail huntley told her.

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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2017, 02:28:PM »
I appreciate Nugs is trying to make Carr's actions seem less terrible. Carr only spent 18 months in jail for behaving in a much worse way than Julie.

However everyone has to agree that Julie's actions in comparison were not worthy of a prosecution attempt by the police. Espescially as she approached the police & they wanted her as a co operating prosecution witness.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2017, 02:32:PM by Adam »
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Re: Maxine Carr/Julie Mugford
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2017, 02:31:PM »
I appreciate Nugs is trying to make Carr's actions seem less terrible. Carr only spent 18 months in jail for behaving in a much worse way than Julie.

However everyone has to agree that Julie's actions in comparison were not worthy of a prosecution attempt by the police. Espescially as she approached the police & they wanted her as a co operating witness.

why do you think she only spent 18 months becouse she was only convicted of lying