Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm

[Jan]

She couldn't but she didn't have to if someone else did it for her. Your argument backs up a staged scene.

So in the staged scene how did drops of blood in a line arrive on her arm in the first place ?

We have to think how that could happen before the movement comes into play?

Are the droplets the source or the end of the running blood?

[lookout]

Was that blood on Sheila's arm tested,or proved that it was hers ?

Jeremy could have had a nose-bleed with the sheer exertion of moving bodies.

[Jane]

Was that blood on Sheila's arm tested,or proved that it was hers ?

Jeremy could have had a nose-bleed with the sheer exertion of moving bodies.

Hmm. Not UNbelievable. Worthy of consideration.

[David1819]

Here we go.

[Roch]

Here we go.

Yes it's very interesting what he suggests.

[Jan]

Can we remember the position where it was later shown that a person of her height and with a gun that length could shoot themselves? THat is without the silencer ?

I do remember there were some photos somewhere ?

If she had put her hand up to her throats you would think the blood would run straight down her arm to her elbow.

[Jane]

Can we remember the position where it was later shown that a person of her height and with a gun that length could shoot themselves? THat is without the silencer ?

I do remember there were some photos somewhere ?

If she had put her hand up to her throats you would think the blood would run straight down her arm to her elbow.

Would that not depend on A) how much she bled in as opposed to out. B) how long before the second shot?

[Jan]

Would that not depend on A) how much she bled in as opposed to out. B) how long before the second shot?

I am not saying it will show anything just interested in how close to the wounds her hands and arms would have been .

[Roch]

Vanezis is expressing almost the opposite of my question. 

[Jan]

It was the second photo I was thinking of where the inside of her arm is pointing up

[Jane]

It was the second photo I was thinking of where the inside of her arm is pointing up

How would the rifle have ended up laying neatly across her if she'd employed the action in the second picture for the final shot. HOW after the first shot and the damage it did, would she have managed to take the second shot?

[Jan]

How would the rifle have ended up laying neatly across her if she'd employed the action in the second picture for the final shot. HOW after the first shot and the damage it did, would she have managed to take the second shot?

No one has managed to say what position Jeremy got into either to shoot her at the angles that resulted or why she did not put her hands up to defend herself so it's all conjecture is it not?

I never said this is what happened I just was interested in where blood might have ended up .

Can you explain the blood trails and the change in directions ?

[Caroline]

No one has managed to say what position Jeremy got into either to shoot her at the angles that resulted or why she did not put her hands up to defend herself so it's all conjecture is it not?

I never said this is what happened I just was interested in where blood might have ended up .

Can you explain the blood trails and the change in directions ?

Perhaps she did and that's where the cuts on her hands came from (if they are indeed cuts).

[Steve_uk]

Here we go.

What do you deduce from this Sherlock?

[Jan]

Perhaps she did and that's where the cuts on her hands came from (if they are indeed cuts).

so what made the cuts in that scenario?