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Offline lookout

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #75 on: July 11, 2017, 06:23:PM »
If anybody doesn't agree with him then two things happen.

Firstly, they place themselves in opposition to the pathologist's findings expressed at trial (obviously). 

Secondly, they are faced with solving the question at the beginning of this thread.




Okay.

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #76 on: July 11, 2017, 06:30:PM »




I don't agree with him.
Nor me lookout.  I cannot agree because it makes no sense and I can see she has small wounds probably caused by something sharp like finger nails.

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #77 on: July 11, 2017, 06:31:PM »
Firstly,where was the pic taken ?

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #78 on: July 11, 2017, 06:45:PM »
He claimed at trial that the darker spots were at the end of the runs of blood.  Not the beginning.

So does that mean we are not seeing the start of the blood trails as they are on the other side of the arm?

Btw could you look at my last question on my post on rifle in window thread ?

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #79 on: July 11, 2017, 07:04:PM »
He claimed at trial that the darker spots were at the end of the runs of blood.  Not the beginning.

I agree with him.
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #80 on: July 11, 2017, 07:15:PM »
That they hadn't run any further because her life had ended ?
I still say that the dark spots came from the jugular vein,which is darker blood anyway than that from an artery.

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #81 on: July 11, 2017, 07:17:PM »
I agree with him.

His suggestion poses different questions that are also interesting and worth exploring.

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #82 on: July 11, 2017, 07:18:PM »
That they hadn't run any further because her life had ended ?
I still say that the dark spots came from the jugular vein,which is darker blood anyway than that from an artery.

No more blood pumping the trail have to end somewhere.
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #83 on: July 11, 2017, 07:19:PM »
That they hadn't run any further because her life had ended ?
I still say that the dark spots came from the jugular vein,which is darker blood anyway than that from an artery.

But then the only people you DO agree with are those who say Jeremy is innocent. Even that's probably the ONLY thing you agree with them about.

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #84 on: July 11, 2017, 07:19:PM »
It wasn't photographed as it had happened------on the carpet. No blood beneath to give any clues ?

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #85 on: July 11, 2017, 07:21:PM »
It wasn't photographed as it had happened------on the carpet. No blood beneath to give any clues ?

Obviously not.
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #86 on: July 11, 2017, 07:29:PM »
I agree with him.

So if the photos show the end of the trails you are agreeing that the beginning is on the other side of the arm that we can not see?

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #87 on: July 11, 2017, 07:36:PM »
So if the photos show the end of the trails you are agreeing that the beginning is on the other side of the arm that we can not see?

I think the trails are from her hand. I think Bamber made the palm print on the bible from blood on her hand, placed the bible on her lap leaving the stain of bloodied finger marks on her nightdress, which ended in a straight line (because of the bible). I think it thought it looked too staged and he wouldn't have been able to stage the rifle. I think he changed his mind and put the bible on the floor - upturned.
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #88 on: July 11, 2017, 07:41:PM »
I think the trails are from her hand. I think Bamber made the palm print on the bible from blood on her hand, placed the bible on her lap leaving the stain of bloodied finger marks on her nightdress, which ended in a straight line (because of the bible). I think it thought it looked too staged and he wouldn't have been able to stage the rifle. I think he changed his mind and put the bible on the floor - upturned.

I was talking about the trails that go around her arms in several places . Are you talking about the same thing?

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #89 on: July 11, 2017, 07:55:PM »
I was talking about the trails that go around her arms in several places . Are you talking about the same thing?

Yes, running down from her hand, ending where the darkest spots are.
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