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Offline Caroline

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2017, 07:52:PM »

so what made the cuts in that scenario?

There are also linear marks (which could be just smears) similar to those on Nevill - so, it would be the barrel of the rifle in this scenario.
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2017, 08:03:PM »
It was the second photo I was thinking of where the inside of her arm is pointing up





This is probably how Sheila chipped the nail and varnish off her toe.

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2017, 08:08:PM »




This is probably how Sheila chipped the nail and varnish off her toe.
But that was found in the kitchen wasn't it, not the master bedroom?

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« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2017, 08:20:PM »
But that was found in the kitchen wasn't it, not the master bedroom?





Well it would fit in with the scenario that she was seen in the kitchen. Those cops couldn't count could they ?

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2017, 08:24:PM »




This is probably how Sheila chipped the nail and varnish off her toe.

I am not saying that is how she did it . It's just looking at blood flow possibilities .

There was the statement that she could have been conscious between shots possibly  so there is no definitive sequence of what may possibly had happened  .

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2017, 08:35:PM »
I am not saying that is how she did it . It's just looking at blood flow possibilities .

There was the statement that she could have been conscious between shots possibly  so there is no definitive sequence of what may possibly had happened  .





I doubt very much that Sheila moved after the first shot at all,but someone else's blood could have dropped onto her.
Though saying that,June with all her injuries managed to walk to the window,then around the area where Sheila lay,as they were her droplets,so it wasn't impossible for June's blood to have also dropped onto Sheila. Large enough drops would land on Sheila's arm and naturally run down creating the blood pattern.

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2017, 08:59:PM »
Perhaps she did and that's where the cuts on her hands came from (if they are indeed cuts).

That is revealing. You are more amenable to accepting there are cuts on her hand, if the cause implicates Jeremy.  If the cause doesn't implicate Jeremy, then the marks remain smears only.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2017, 09:15:PM by Roch »

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2017, 09:05:PM »
That is revealing. You are more amenable to accepting there are cuts on her hand, if the cause implications Jeremy.  If the cause doesn't implicate Jeremy, then the marks remain smears only.

Probably because I am as certain that Jeremy is guilty as you are that he isn't. I don't see where you have given the same credence that you are asking me to show? I don't see where you have been amenable to the cuts (if indeed they) being caused by Jeremy. By the way - I haven't accepted that they are cuts.
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2017, 09:15:PM »
Pity there are no pictures of the rest of the trail  on the inside of her arm

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2017, 09:20:PM »
What do you deduce from this Sherlock?

It shows that Vanezis suggests a scenario for the blood trails that is opposite to the scenario in my question.  My question is about how the dark spots of blood fell on Sheila's arm. According to Vanezis - the dark spots are where the blood flow ends.  Look at the photos closely and consider that.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2017, 09:21:PM by Roch »

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2017, 09:32:PM »
Probably because I am as certain that Jeremy is guilty as you are that he isn't. I don't see where you have given the same credence that you are asking me to show? I don't see where you have been amenable to the cuts (if indeed they) being caused by Jeremy. By the way - I haven't accepted that they are cuts.

Because I don't think it's credible to suggest that a rifle barrel or sound moderator caused the cuts on her hand.

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2017, 09:33:PM »
What does he mean by where the blood flow ends ?

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2017, 09:39:PM »
Because I don't think it's credible to suggest that a rifle barrel or sound moderator caused the cuts on her hand.

I am not sure they are cuts but you don't know what caused them you're making assumption that go with your theory - same thing you're accusing me of.
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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #43 on: July 10, 2017, 09:42:PM »
Probably because they are circular weapons and at least one wound is small and rectangular .

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Re: Sheila's neck wound and the blood on her arm
« Reply #44 on: July 10, 2017, 09:43:PM »
If you look at the photos you see the dark spots on Sheila's arm with what appears to be a trail of blood from them.
In your opinion is the dark spot where the old trail begins or ends?  Think that is what Roch is asking.

We can't see the complete trail which is a bit of a problem .