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Re: "DS Davidson confirmed, the barrell, not the silencer"
« Reply #60 on: July 10, 2017, 02:35:PM »
Newspaper archives






Bill,if you said you'd been there making notes,it would still have been disputed.No matter what anyone comes up with there'll always be an inquest.

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Re: "DS Davidson confirmed, the barrell, not the silencer"
« Reply #61 on: July 10, 2017, 07:16:PM »
Newspaper archives

Are these archives online?
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Re: "DS Davidson confirmed, the barrell, not the silencer"
« Reply #62 on: July 10, 2017, 07:17:PM »





Bill,if you said you'd been there making notes,it would still have been disputed.No matter what anyone comes up with there'll always be an inquest.

Yeah we should just take anyone and everyone's word for whatever they say - much like you do. Oh wait, that's on;y ever if it supports innocence.
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Re: "DS Davidson confirmed, the barrell, not the silencer"
« Reply #63 on: July 10, 2017, 07:22:PM »
Newspaper articles can be accessed if you join certain websites as I am sure you are aware .

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Re: "DS Davidson confirmed, the barrell, not the silencer"
« Reply #64 on: July 10, 2017, 07:41:PM »
Newspaper articles can be accessed if you join certain websites as I am sure you are aware .

Yes I am. However, I'm looking for the same source as Bill used and the only way to know that, is to ask him - hence my asking him.
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Re: "DS Davidson confirmed, the barrell, not the silencer"
« Reply #65 on: July 10, 2017, 08:38:PM »
If this helps it names the newspaper


My apologies.The actual clip I am looking for is the police press conference following either Jeremy's arrest or conviction. If anyone can locate it,please could they post it up.thanks x

EDIT. Clip required is of ACC Peter Simpson speaking at a press conference in September 1985

  That an Essex Police Officer, probably DS 21 Stanley Brian Jones, seized a sound moderator SBJ/1 from the gun cupboard at White House Farm (WHF) on 7th August 1985.
2)      Indeed this is corroborated by Assistant Chief Constable (ACC) PETER SIMPSON stating in a press conference and reported in ‘The Echo’ dated 17th September 1985,
‘A silencer was found at the White House Farm on the day of the killings, but this does not have to mean anything suspicious.’ (See Material Exhibits File News clippings)

Hi Tyler

The Allegation document contains  references to the silencer found on the day of the killings.

http://forum.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/media/?sa=media;in=57;dl

The provenance (continuity) of the sound moderator

27. The original finding of a sound moderator that was labelled SBJ/1 occurred, according to the investigating officers and prosecution witnesses, on 10th August 1985. Namely, it was discovered by a David Boutflour. It was asserted at trial that it was handed to an Essex Police Officer, DS 21 Jones, on 12th August 1985 by Ann Eaton. Then on 13th August 1985 it was submitted for forensic testing at Huntingdon laboratories on by DI Cook.

28. However, in his broadcasts to various media organisations, that were notably later retracted, ACC Simpson was quoted in ‘The Mirror,’ on the 17th September 1985,

‘A heavily bloodstained silencer was found by the police hours after the gruesome massacre,’ in addition, ‘Police discovered a blood stained gun silencer at the farm on the day of the massacre.’
29. Furthermore on 16th September 1985, ACC Simpson informed Paul Davidson of ‘The Essex Gazette,’

‘Although a silencer was found shortly after police broke into the house, a few hours after the killings on 7th August 1985, it was not until after enquiries were reopened that this was regarded as significant,’

30. The enquiry that was ‘reopened,’ provided suspicion that Jeremy Bamber had committed murder and killed five members of his family, his motive being for his inheritance making it appear that his mentally ill sister had in fact murdered the family members, including her two children.

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Re: "DS Davidson confirmed, the barrell, not the silencer"
« Reply #66 on: July 10, 2017, 08:41:PM »
Crikey,twisted evidence.

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Re: "DS Davidson confirmed, the barrell, not the silencer"
« Reply #67 on: July 10, 2017, 08:58:PM »
If this helps it names the newspaper


My apologies.The actual clip I am looking for is the police press conference following either Jeremy's arrest or conviction. If anyone can locate it,please could they post it up.thanks x

EDIT. Clip required is of ACC Peter Simpson speaking at a press conference in September 1985

  That an Essex Police Officer, probably DS 21 Stanley Brian Jones, seized a sound moderator SBJ/1 from the gun cupboard at White House Farm (WHF) on 7th August 1985.
2)      Indeed this is corroborated by Assistant Chief Constable (ACC) PETER SIMPSON stating in a press conference and reported in ‘The Echo’ dated 17th September 1985,
‘A silencer was found at the White House Farm on the day of the killings, but this does not have to mean anything suspicious.’ (See Material Exhibits File News clippings)

Hi Tyler

The Allegation document contains  references to the silencer found on the day of the killings.

http://forum.wronglyaccusedperson.org.uk/media/?sa=media;in=57;dl

The provenance (continuity) of the sound moderator

27. The original finding of a sound moderator that was labelled SBJ/1 occurred, according to the investigating officers and prosecution witnesses, on 10th August 1985. Namely, it was discovered by a David Boutflour. It was asserted at trial that it was handed to an Essex Police Officer, DS 21 Jones, on 12th August 1985 by Ann Eaton. Then on 13th August 1985 it was submitted for forensic testing at Huntingdon laboratories on by DI Cook.

28. However, in his broadcasts to various media organisations, that were notably later retracted, ACC Simpson was quoted in ‘The Mirror,’ on the 17th September 1985,

‘A heavily bloodstained silencer was found by the police hours after the gruesome massacre,’ in addition, ‘Police discovered a blood stained gun silencer at the farm on the day of the massacre.’
29. Furthermore on 16th September 1985, ACC Simpson informed Paul Davidson of ‘The Essex Gazette,’

‘Although a silencer was found shortly after police broke into the house, a few hours after the killings on 7th August 1985, it was not until after enquiries were reopened that this was regarded as significant,’

30. The enquiry that was ‘reopened,’ provided suspicion that Jeremy Bamber had committed murder and killed five members of his family, his motive being for his inheritance making it appear that his mentally ill sister had in fact murdered the family members, including her two children.

The 'allegation document' isn't available.
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Re: "DS Davidson confirmed, the barrell, not the silencer"
« Reply #68 on: July 10, 2017, 09:16:PM »
The 'allegation document' isn't available.

I know . I just said it mentioned the papers involved

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Re: "DS Davidson confirmed, the barrell, not the silencer"
« Reply #69 on: July 11, 2017, 05:32:AM »
I'll let people read the interview if they want to. The first time Davidson sees the silencer is the real killer - in 1991.  ;D

DS Davidson (SOCO) and DS Eastwood (SOCO) examined the silencer for fingerprints on 14 September 1985, at police HQ, despite the fact that cops supposedly sent the same silencer to Huntingdon Lab' on 30th August 1985. How could the same silencer still be in police possession and be at the lab' at one and the same time? Worse still, Ron Cook (SOCO) had fingerprinted the same silencer by Superglue treatment on 23rd August 1985, so why did Davidson and Eastwood perform fingerprinting on a silencer cops no longer had possession of, and which to all intents and purposes was coated in Superglue fumes? Clearly, these were two separate silencers, the one fingerprinted by Cook (SOCO) on 23 August 1985 was already at the lab' by and from 30 August 1985, the other one fingerprinted by Davidson (SOCO) and Eastwood (SOCO), on 14 September 1985, was a silence handed by Ann Eaton to DC Oakey (SOCO) on 11 September 1985, which did not get sent to the lab' by cops until 20 September 1985, by which time blood was already supposed to have been found and analysed from inside the former silencer! The red paint found on the second silencer  coincided with the additionally marks made on the kitchen mantelshelf as per crime scene photographs taken on 14 September 1985. The blood in one of the two silencers, and the red paint found on the other, were subsequently merged as though they related toons and the same silencer under the guise of exhibit reference DRB/1! The DRB exhibits did not come into play until after Ann Eaton handed to DC Oakey (SOCO) the second silencer on 11 September 1985...
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