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Offline David1819

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What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« on: June 21, 2017, 10:40:PM »
After Julie had claimed Jeremy used a bike to commit the murders, PC Bird had taken a soil sample from the trail between WHF and Hyde farm.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7564.msg356878.html#msg356878

It also mentions the bike in the same notes. I can safely assume the intention was to compare the soil on the wheels of the bike to that of the sample taken.

I wonder what happened or if any results were produced? I have hardly seen any documents except for PC Birds notes on this subject.

"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2017, 07:52:AM »
What happened to the Sherpa van as well ? Wasn't that also JB's ? Was it examined ?

Like everything else,if they didn't contain JB's DNA,etc,they weren't interested.

Also the footprint around a window area ?

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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2017, 11:45:AM »
What happened to the Sherpa van as well ? Wasn't that also JB's ? Was it examined ?

Like everything else,if they didn't contain JB's DNA,etc,they weren't interested.

Also the footprint around a window area ?

Wouldn't that incriminate him?  :-\
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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2017, 04:03:PM »
Wouldn't that incriminate him?  :-\





Why would it if it wasn't his ?  ::) Which it obviously wasn't,as that's why the " find " died a death,like everything else which was " found ".

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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2017, 04:43:PM »




Why would it if it wasn't his ?  ::) Which it obviously wasn't,as that's why the " find " died a death,like everything else which was " found ".

How could they prove it was or wasn't his?
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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2017, 07:58:PM »
How could they prove it was or wasn't his?





We'd have known before now one way or the other if it was or wasn't. It was probably one of the plod's.

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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2017, 08:17:PM »
What happened to the Sherpa van as well ? Wasn't that also JB's ? Was it examined ?

Like everything else,if they didn't contain JB's DNA,etc,they weren't interested.

Also the footprint around a window area ?

Who said the footprint was near a window?

PS. I doubt JB would be barefooted in any situation envolving the murders.
"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2017, 09:30:PM »
Who said the footprint was near a window?

PS. I doubt JB would be barefooted in any situation envolving the murders.





I remember reading about it because it had been AE who'd mentioned it,so whether she'd been told by someone I don't know. I don't remember reading what he wore on his feet anyway ? 

Just been watching Diana,Lady Waterlow's video.

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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2017, 10:44:PM »
One thing for sure,there was no sign of a mucky shoe/boot-print on entry and certainly no sign of a bloodied one on the way out-------not even inside the farmhouse considering there was a lot of blood in the kitchen, which even that hadn't been carried upstairs. Not a print in sight.

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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2017, 12:52:PM »
One thing for sure,there was no sign of a mucky shoe/boot-print on entry and certainly no sign of a bloodied one on the way out-------not even inside the farmhouse considering there was a lot of blood in the kitchen, which even that hadn't been carried upstairs. Not a print in sight.

I certainly don't think he used the bike and that RWB had rather a vivid imagination. There wouldn't be prints if he used gloves but there were bloody prints found on the aga tiles, it's in CAL's book (although they were probably Nevill's).
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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2017, 12:59:PM »
I certainly don't think he used the bike and that RWB had rather a vivid imagination. There wouldn't be prints if he used gloves but there were bloody prints found on the aga tiles, it's in CAL's book (although they were probably Nevill's).

The police believe he cycled to WHF. On the bike he brought over to his cottage just before the massacre.

How did he get to & from WHF ?
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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2017, 02:42:PM »
I certainly don't think he used the bike and that RWB had rather a vivid imagination. There wouldn't be prints if he used gloves but there were bloody prints found on the aga tiles, it's in CAL's book (although they were probably Nevill's).




There are such things as glove-prints. 

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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2017, 03:11:PM »
The police believe he cycled to WHF. On the bike he brought over to his cottage just before the massacre.

How did he get to & from WHF ?

I believe he walked. I make a similar walk twice a day with my dog across the fields. He knew the area well and would be familiar with short cuts and access routes.
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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2017, 03:11:PM »



There are such things as glove-prints.

Hmm? We're talking Essex 1985, NOT NCIS 2017.

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Re: What Happened To The Soil Samples?
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2017, 03:24:PM »
I believe he walked. I make a similar walk twice a day with my dog across the fields. He knew the area well and would be familiar with short cuts and access routes.

Do you think Julie lied in her WS. Or that Bamber changed his mind ?
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