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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2017, 05:42:PM »
I did notice two different descriptions of the murderer,one of them being a more rounded face which stone doesn't have.
I'm surprised this story hasn't received more coverage both here and in the media. There are arguments to be made for Stone's innocence and guilt. I look forward to the last instalment of the BBC series next week.

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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2017, 03:10:AM »
the surving girl also desvribed a man much taller than stone.

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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2017, 06:25:PM »
the surving girl also desvribed a man much taller than stone.
Yes she stated that the attacker was a man a little taller than her dad Shaun, who is 6ft tall. Levi Bellfield is 6ft 1ins.

I have decided to write a little more about the case, gleaned from various sources, though apologies that it's in instalments as I haven't completed it yet, and also apologies if members are not particularly interested or are waiting for Part Two of the BBC documentary before commenting further.

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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2017, 06:27:PM »
The Crown's case has been tested twice in 1998 and 2001 and Stone has been found guilty both times.  He was born Michael John Goodban in 1960 in Tunbridge Wells, one of five children of a building labourer father, who walked out on their mother when Michael was twelve years old. The family was subsequently dispersed to various children's homes, Michael himself being sent to several, one of them located in the village of Eastry, only three miles from the secluded village of Chillenden, where the attacks took place. Stone claims to have been physically and sexually abused there. He had begun a life of petty crime including shoplifting and burglary, but it wasn't until leaving the care system in adulthood that he turned to substance abuse.
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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2017, 06:45:PM »
id like to know what this new evdence is becouse wathing the firt part i dident see anying vaguely new.

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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2017, 06:47:PM »
Shaun and Lyn Russell were both academics who worked at Bangor University where they met and fell in love. Upon marriage Lyn gave up her career and they had two daughters: Josie, who was born in 1987 and was nine at the time of the attack and Megan, born in 1992 and was six. Shaun was ambitious for his family and received a promotion at the University of Kent at Canterbury, the family moving in 1995 to a picture postcard cottage with thatched roof and honeysuckle located in Chillenden amidst the cornfields of North Thanet.

The bare facts are these: on Tuesday 9th July 1996 at 4:00pm Lyn collected her children from school after a swimming gala and they walked back home along the country lanes, turning off into an unmade track and into Cherry Garden Lane. The family passed a car parked up on the entrance to the lane and Josie waved to the driver. As they turned into the lane the man got out suddenly wielding a claw hammer and demanded money from the mother.

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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2017, 06:51:PM »
id like to know what this new evdence is becouse wathing the firt part i dident see anying vaguely new.
All I know is that it's evidence which never made it to trial. Having researched the case somewhat there's an awful lot of unsubstantiated evidence..

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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2017, 06:59:PM »
One wonders what thoughts were passing through the head of Lyn Russell at this point, a head which would be crushed into a mush only seconds later. She confirmed to her attacker that she didn't have any money on her person, but offered to go home to get some. The assailant refused and ordered her and her two daughters into a thicket, whereupon the mother shouted to Josie to run home and get help. However the man caught hold of her, blindfolded her with strips of towelling taken from her swimming bag and tied her to a tree. Her mother was also blindfolded Josie was hit on the head with the claw hammer and passed out. The man, possibly agitated at not finding any money in Lyn's possession smashed her and Megan's heads in frustration and drove away from the scene, after also killing the family dog.
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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2017, 07:04:PM »
Upon returning after the short drive from work and finding nobody home Shaun Russell began a fruitless search of the environs. He eventually telephoned Police, who discovered the bodies at 12:20am the next morning. All three victims had been left for dead. Police, as is normal procedure had to regard the spouse as a suspect, possibly withholding the information from him that his elder daughter Josie, though sustaining grave injuries, was still clinging to life.

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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2017, 07:11:PM »
Josie was subsequently to become the principal eyewitness in the case against Stone. She described her assailant as having short, yellow, spiky hair, clean-shaven, medium build, aged 25 and slightly taller than her father, who was 6ft. The car was described as brown or red.

At 4:10pm a gardener reported seeing a beige Escort parked by a tree, with the boot open. He described a man stood alongside, about 5 feet 6, close cut, light hair, wiry, aged about 35-40. In 1996 Stone was 35 years old. When the gardener returned with his dog he saw a string bag with strips of blue towelling which had been ripped off, pushed into a hedge.

At 4:30pm a local woman had seen a clean-shaven man of medium build wearing a dark blue baseball cap and carrying a hammer.

Nichola Burchell had been driving along the B2046 when a beige car pulled out at a junction causing her to slow down. She followed the car bumper to bumper and described a man looking at her continually in his rear mirror. She described him as round faced with chubby cheeks, aged 30-35, short gingery blond hair and fair complexion.
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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2017, 07:17:PM »
Yes she stated that the attacker was a man a little taller than her dad Shaun, who is 6ft tall. Levi Bellfield is 6ft 1ins.

I have decided to write a little more about the case, gleaned from various sources, though apologies that it's in instalments as I haven't completed it yet, and also apologies if members are not particularly interested or are waiting for Part Two of the BBC documentary before commenting further.

Michael stone is 5ft7 so 5 inches shorter than her dad so hardly fits the description.



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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2017, 07:20:PM »
Michael stone is 5ft7 so 5 inches shorter than her dad so hardly fits the description.
Yes but check the gardener's description.

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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2017, 07:35:PM »
In 1998 and in 2001 it was never part of the Prosecution's case that Stone drove a beige car (Josie had described the car as "red"). Stone always denied owning a beige car. He had been stopped coincidentally by Police in a white Toyota Tercel on July 5, four days before the murders, and on 16 July one week after. The car was forensically examined in minute detail one year later with no traces ever linked to the Chillenden crimes. The Court of Appeal in 2005 stated that it was Stone's habit to carry a hammer in his car, though Stone denied this. He has always answered Police questions, his replies running to 1000 pages of notes.
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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2017, 08:20:PM »
Yes but check the gardener's description.

joie russel came face to face with killer the gardner dident so she had a far better view of him its hard to tell height from a distence  were as close up you wont exactly right youll probely be near.

i dont think she could of mistaken a man of 5ft7 as being taller than her 6ft father.


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Re: Michael Stone New Evidence Tonight
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2017, 08:45:PM »
joie russel came face to face with killer the gardner dident so she had a far better view of him its hard to tell height from a distence  were as close up you wont exactly right youll probely be near.

i dont think she could of mistaken a man of 5ft7 as being taller than her 6ft father.
Yes that's true, but the man near the hedge surely has some involvement in the murder? There was also allegedly anecdotal evidence (not allowed at trial) that Josie was presented with a picture of Stone on a transport pass taken three days after the murders to which she exclaimed: "That's him!"