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Re: Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2017, 07:30:PM »
But he didn't fool them - he's now reaping the consequences. Of course he had no way of knowing but he DID have the confidence that he could pull it off. If crime worked on the basis that the offender could work out police reaction, there'd be no one in prison.

But it is arguably the most high profile on going case in the British system, look at this forum, Essex police made such a balls up that no one is likely to ever know if a man has wasted his life in jail. Forensically there is nothing.

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« Reply #46 on: March 15, 2017, 07:33:PM »
The Prosecution argument was that it was Bambers intention to use as the "getaway" vehicle.

They said it was a vehicle he used to get to and from WHF. Julie Mugford said that was his plan.
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Re: Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2017, 07:33:PM »
But it is arguably the most high profile on going case in the British system, look at this forum, Essex police made such a balls up that no one is likely to ever know if a man has wasted his life in jail. Forensically there is nothing.

Most of my friends don't (or didn't) know who Jeremy Bamber is. What about this forum? There is only a handful of regular posters. I'm as confident as I can be that they have the right perpetrator.
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Re: Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2017, 07:34:PM »
But it is arguably the most high profile on going case in the British system, look at this forum, Essex police made such a balls up that no one is likely to ever know if a man has wasted his life in jail. Forensically there is nothing.




Agreed,there's nothing on the man except supposition/circumstantial and hearsay " evidence ".
The whole justice system is in a mess !

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« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2017, 07:36:PM »



Agreed,there's nothing on the man except supposition/circumstantial and hearsay " evidence ".
The whole justice system is in a mess !

Just like a lot of other cases then!
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Re: Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2017, 07:37:PM »
But it is arguably the most high profile on going case in the British system, look at this forum, Essex police made such a balls up that no one is likely to ever know if a man has wasted his life in jail. Forensically there is nothing.

There is a mountain of forensic evidence against Bamber. Some of it in the library.
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Re: Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2017, 07:42:PM »
What is the point of the question ?

Well if he'd got another mag from somewhere, he could have loaded them up before hand hence instead of having to run downstairs? or have the loose rounds in his pocket?

Completely hypothetical of course.


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Re: Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2017, 07:44:PM »
Just like a lot of other cases then!





Absolutely.

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« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2017, 07:45:PM »
Well if he'd got another mag from somewhere, he could have loaded them up before hand hence instead of having to run downstairs? or have the loose rounds in his pocket?

Completely hypothetical of course.

He didn't have two.
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« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2017, 07:45:PM »




Absolutely.

So Jeremy is no different - lots of cases rely on circumstantial evidence.
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Re: Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2017, 07:45:PM »
Well if he'd got another mag from somewhere, he could have loaded them up before hand hence instead of having to run downstairs? or have the loose rounds in his pocket?

Completely hypothetical of course.

The rifle was fully loaded when Bamber went upstairs. He would have expected to kill or negate everyone with 11 bullets. But Nevill got downstairs.
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Re: Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2017, 07:47:PM »
But he didn't say that - BW has said that she believes he was talking about Jeremy.

But she has not told anyone according to the book what he told her.

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Re: Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2017, 07:49:PM »
Well if he'd got another mag from somewhere, he could have loaded them up before hand hence instead of having to run downstairs? or have the loose rounds in his pocket?

Completely hypothetical of course.




Indeed,why would he take the box of bullets upstairs ? An empty box was found in the bedroom.

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Re: Murders at White House Farm by Carol Ann Lee.
« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2017, 07:51:PM »
The rifle was fully loaded when Bamber went upstairs. He would have expected to kill or negate everyone with 11 bullets. But Nevill got downstairs.

Not with 22 he won't, only head shots count a body shot will just bleed you to death over minutes, for an instant kill you'd go for a pump action shotgun.