Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law

[Stephanie]

"Risk remains say police despite 2008 acquittal

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/nov/29/barry-george-jill-dando

Further re Barry George's risk http://probabilityandlaw.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/barry-george-case-new-insights-on.html?m=1

"Our new paper*  "When ‘neutral’ evidence still has probative value: implications from the Barry George Case" (published in the journal Science and Justice) casts doubts on the reasoning in the 2007 Appeal Court judgement that led to the quashing of Barry George's conviction for the shooting to death of TV celebrity Jill Dando.

[nugnug]

the met police of said the same people who said an unarmed man shot at theem s a copletly rialble source there.

[Stephanie]

http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/jill-dando-and-the-way-of-the-bullet-6319959.html

[nugnug]

Further re Barry George's risk http://probabilityandlaw.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/barry-george-case-new-insights-on.html?m=1

"Our new paper*  "When ‘neutral’ evidence still has probative value: implications from the Barry George Case" (published in the journal Science and Justice) casts doubts on the reasoning in the 2007 Appeal Court judgement that led to the quashing of Barry George's conviction for the shooting to death of TV celebrity Jill Dando.

I couldent find 1 coherent arguent in that link just rehashing discredited evddence that a juery of 12 people rejected.

[nugnug]

I was referring to your claims about me!

And I know about the libel damages and why he won them, seems you are stretching this in order to fit your agenda.

Maybe you can post up what the news group said word for word.

well you normally win a libel case by the fact what has been said isn't true.

[nugnug]

    The links that you have provided so far have defeated rather than helped your contentions. Quite what nuggets of knowledge you believe can be derived from an article in "Sociopath World" authored by the anonymous "psychology today blogger" is a mystery. Cod psychology epitomised.
    Another of your links is to an article where it is accepted that Mirror Group also lied about him and paid him substantial damages for libel. Why do you imagine that this backs up your allegations?
    The same tactics were used against Colin Stagg for years where it was suggested constantly that he had "got away" with murdering Rachel Nickell. How did that one turn out?
     You haven't offered a single valid reason to back up your belief that Barry George is guilty.

theres also the fact that a blog on psychology thankfully convict somone in a court of law so the title of the threads a bit misleading.

[Stephanie]

Barry George's lawyers spent 3 years trying to get compensation. The case went to the high court. His lawyers claiming George would not have been convicted in the original trial if the jury had been aware of the unreliable evidence that George's lawyers had spent 11 years discrediting since the conviction. 

"The claim was heard in the High Court, but in their summing up, judges Lord Justice Beatson and Mr Justice Irwin said: "There was indeed a case upon which a reasonable jury properly directed could have convicted the claimant of murder", and, on the strength of this, denied George compensation for wrongful incarceration".

The problem is Adam I don't think many people bother to read the Judgement's, which is a shame.

Barry George had been to prison prior to Jill Dando's murder but the way his sister and his supporters carry on, you'd think they'd forgotten about this fact.

Was it because of his 'disabilities' that he did what he did to his previous victim(s)? Why didn't his family bother to fight that conviction?

[nugnug]

no they havent forgotten they just know its not relvant to the jill dando murder.

[Stephanie]

no they havent forgotten they just know its not relvant to the jill dando murder.

Point me to where his previous convictions have been discussed by his family members and the impact of these convictions on his family members and more importantly his victim(s).

Is he capable of showing remorse?

Why aren't his previous convictions relevant to the Jill Dando murder?

And why did he commit the offences in the first place? What was his defence back then?

[nugnug]

there were hundreds of suspects in that case i doubt was only one of them that had been in prison.

[Stephanie]

there were hundreds of suspects in that case i doubt was only one of them that had been in prison.

You haven't answered my questions - we are talking about Barry George, not the other suspects!

Point me to where his previous convictions have been discussed by his family members and the impact of these convictions on his family members and more importantly his victim(s).

Is he capable of showing remorse?

Why aren't his previous convictions relevant to the Jill Dando murder?

And why did he commit the offences in the first place? What was his defence back then?

[Steve_uk]

Point me to where his previous convictions have been discussed by his family members and the impact of these convictions on his family members and more importantly his victim(s).

Is he capable of showing remorse?

Why aren't his previous convictions relevant to the Jill Dando murder?

And why did he commit the offences in the first place? What was his defence back then?

Well they can't be by law but I must admit I found Jill's neighbour Helen Doble remarkably complacent when she dismissed Barry George as the local eccentric when he had in the past roamed round the grounds of Kensington Palace with rope and a 12'' hunting knife.
https://youtu.be/jlIgI4aLmVU

[Stephanie]

Well they can't be by law but I must admit I found Jill's neighbour Helen Doble remarkably complacent when she dismissed Barry George as the local eccentric when he had in the past roamed round the grounds of Kensington Palace with rope and a 12'' hunting knife.
https://youtu.be/jlIgI4aLmVU

I should have been clearer - I'm talking about now, not pre-trial Steve.

How can Barry George be described as a 'vulnerable loner' when he has form?

Why do his supporters play down these facts? Is it there cognitive distortions? If the police didn't believe him to be a risk to the public, why still under MAPPA?

[Stephanie]

Well they can't be by law but I must admit I found Jill's neighbour Helen Doble remarkably complacent when she dismissed Barry George as the local eccentric when he had in the past roamed round the grounds of Kensington Palace with rope and a 12'' hunting knife.
https://youtu.be/jlIgI4aLmVU

Neighbour Mr Hughes was unable to pick out George in a line up but it was over a year later.

His description immediately following the scream certainly seemed to fit George in my opinion. And maybe the phone he thought he saw was the murder weapon.

[Stephanie]

Neighbour Mr Hughes was unable to pick out George in a line up but it was over a year later.

His description immediately following the scream certainly seemed to fit George in my opinion. And maybe the phone he thought he saw was the murder weapon.

I wonder what Baroness Newlove would make of these circumstances. Seems George's previous victim(s) have been forgotten about.