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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2017, 07:37:PM »
Seeing as you have an opinion on everything I post, do you think Billy Middleton got away with murder?
I feel so sorry for Kareen Steph.
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2017, 07:40:PM »
Sion Jenkins. He's another one who got his conviction overturned. After a 9 year battle and initial failed appeal.

The juries didn't even find him innocent after a re trial. No one else has been arrested for the murder. & he didn't get compensation. Which is similar to George.

Bamber would have been looking for a Barry George/Sion Jenkins result in 1986. Where after around a decade he would have found a way to get released. But there is too much evidence against him.

thats just becouse the goverment dont want to pay compansation plane and simple parting up with cash isnt somthing they want to do.

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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2017, 07:48:PM »
thats just becouse the goverment dont want to pay compansation plane and simple parting up with cash isnt somthing they want to do.

It's got nothing to do with the Government not wanting to pay out and everything to do with the fact that neither men are yet to prove they are innocent.

Maybe you should listen to Michelle Diskin/Bates radio interview again; even she accepts this fact.
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2017, 07:50:PM »
thats just becouse the goverment dont want to pay compansation plane and simple parting up with cash isnt somthing they want to do.

I'll ask again, as it's clear you are hounding me!

Seeing as you have an opinion on everything I post, do you think Billy Middleton got away with murder?
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2017, 07:50:PM »
It's got nothing to do with the Government not wanting to pay out and everything to do with the fact that neither men are yet to prove they are innocent.

Maybe you should listen to Michelle Diskin/Bates radio interview again; even she accepts this fact.

erm its got everything to do with the goverment the changed the law.

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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2017, 08:17:PM »
I feel so sorry for Kareen Steph.

You should have a read at statementanalysis.com Justice
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2017, 08:23:PM »
You should have a read at statementanalysis.com Justice
Very interesting, will have a good read of this.
Envy kills,” the Pope said. “It does not tolerate others having something that I do not have. And it always suffers, because the heart of an envious or jealous person suffers. It is a suffering heart!” It is a suffering that desires “the death of others

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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2017, 08:34:PM »
http://www.sociopathworld.com/2010/05/top-10-secrets-of-effective-liars.html?m=1

This is worth a read as well.
Just downloaded part of the book, 10 easy ways to spot someone is lying.  Look at this

Today we would look to see if a person is constantly licking his lips or frequently swallowing to determine if he has a dry mouth.  Ha ha I got him right.
Envy kills,” the Pope said. “It does not tolerate others having something that I do not have. And it always suffers, because the heart of an envious or jealous person suffers. It is a suffering heart!” It is a suffering that desires “the death of others

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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2017, 09:30:PM »
Just downloaded part of the book, 10 easy ways to spot someone is lying.  Look at this

Today we would look to see if a person is constantly licking his lips or frequently swallowing to determine if he has a dry mouth.  Ha ha I got him right.

Billy Middleton  ;D
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2017, 09:44:PM »
I do not believe Barry George is innocent. I believe him to be personality disordered and an extremely dangerous individual and should be re-tried under the Double Jeopardy Law.

The smoke and mirrors campaign his sister is running, is in my opinion, in order to cover his guilt - whether she is aware of his guilt or not.

Further, the hitman story has been made up in order to keep the heat off Barry George; whether knowingly or unknowingly.
   There is no evidence to suggest that Barry George murdered Jill Dando. The evidence used to convict him has long since been discredited.
     Any reasonable person looking at the case against Barry George would quickly discern that the whole charade followed an all too familiar pattern. The police were struggling and had no leads and suddenly arrested a local "loner" who had little support and many vulnerabilities.
     After the arrest and charge Barry George was vilified in the media helped along with leaks from the police.
     Probably the most egregious of these "stories" appeared in the Sun and the News of the World. Based on leaks from the police both papers claimed that Barry George had an "obsession" with Jill Dando. They supported their dubious story with claims that George had hoarded pictures and articles about Jill Dando. This was one amongst many lies and half truths told about Barry George by corrupt police officers, using their equally corrupt and morally compromised proxies at the Sun and News of the World.
     George won substantial but undisclosed damages from both newspapers after suing for libel.
     The truth of the picture and article hoarding story shows both the police and certain media organisations are willing to do and say anything to get a conviction. George had hoarded thousands of old newspapers and magazines. Very few of them featured articles about Jill Dando and those that did were not displayed in any fashion.
     Had anyone in the public eye been murdered there would have been articles about them in George's
hoard. The lies and fabrications told about George in the build up to the trial undoubtedly poisoned the public against him and the trial conducted against this background was never going to be fair. The evidence presented at trial was weak and considered so by informed observers. The poisonous atmosphere probably played a greater role in the conviction than the the evidence presented.
     Anyone paying attention to the wider issue of police corruption and their enablers in the media may have also spotted that the Sun and News of the World crop up with remarkable regularity whenever the dissemination of lies and false stories would be helpful in gaining a conviction.
     As an aside, the treatment dished out to Chris Jeffries when he was arrested for the murder of Joanne Yeates looked very much like the usual script. The miscalculation made by the police in this case  was in underestimating the support he had from a wide range of colleagues and friends. It is worth wondering whether the police would have stopped looking for further suspects had the resistance not been so great.
     That anyone can look at the Barry George case and imagine that it is about a guilty man "getting off" is simply not paying attention. There is a great big light being shone on police and media corruption and collusion. This collusion is in order to convict innocent people. To not see this is to be wilfully blind.
     Instead of attacking Barry George's sister it would be more intellectually honest to question the role played by certain police officers and their stooges at the Sun et al.
     Accusing his sister of "covering his guilt" is particularly loathsome especially seeing as you appear to base these slurs on nothing more than "belief".   

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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2017, 10:05:PM »
   There is no evidence to suggest that Barry George murdered Jill Dando. The evidence used to convict him has long since been discredited.
     Any reasonable person looking at the case against Barry George would quickly discern that the whole charade followed an all too familiar pattern. The police were struggling and had no leads and suddenly arrested a local "loner" who had little support and many vulnerabilities.
     After the arrest and charge Barry George was vilified in the media helped along with leaks from the police.
     Probably the most egregious of these "stories" appeared in the Sun and the News of the World. Based on leaks from the police both papers claimed that Barry George had an "obsession" with Jill Dando. They supported their dubious story with claims that George had hoarded pictures and articles about Jill Dando. This was one amongst many lies and half truths told about Barry George by corrupt police officers, using their equally corrupt and morally compromised proxies at the Sun and News of the World.
     George won substantial but undisclosed damages from both newspapers after suing for libel.
     The truth of the picture and article hoarding story shows both the police and certain media organisations are willing to do and say anything to get a conviction. George had hoarded thousands of old newspapers and magazines. Very few of them featured articles about Jill Dando and those that did were not displayed in any fashion.
     Had anyone in the public eye been murdered there would have been articles about them in George's
hoard. The lies and fabrications told about George in the build up to the trial undoubtedly poisoned the public against him and the trial conducted against this background was never going to be fair. The evidence presented at trial was weak and considered so by informed observers. The poisonous atmosphere probably played a greater role in the conviction than the the evidence presented.
     Anyone paying attention to the wider issue of police corruption and their enablers in the media may have also spotted that the Sun and News of the World crop up with remarkable regularity whenever the dissemination of lies and false stories would be helpful in gaining a conviction.
     As an aside, the treatment dished out to Chris Jeffries when he was arrested for the murder of Joanne Yeates looked very much like the usual script. The miscalculation made by the police in this case  was in underestimating the support he had from a wide range of colleagues and friends. It is worth wondering whether the police would have stopped looking for further suspects had the resistance not been so great.
     That anyone can look at the Barry George case and imagine that it is about a guilty man "getting off" is simply not paying attention. There is a great big light being shone on police and media corruption and collusion. This collusion is in order to convict innocent people. To not see this is to be wilfully blind.
     Instead of attacking Barry George's sister it would be more intellectually honest to question the role played by certain police officers and their stooges at the Sun et al.
     Accusing his sister of "covering his guilt" is particularly loathsome especially seeing as you appear to base these slurs on nothing more than "belief".   

What newspapers?

Maybe you can back up your claims Gringo.
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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2017, 10:52:PM »
"Risk remains say police despite 2008 acquittal

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/nov/29/barry-george-jill-dando

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Re: Barry George should face a re-trial under the Double Jeopardy Law
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2017, 10:59:PM »
What newspapers?

Maybe you can back up your claims Gringo.
   A quick search using the terms "Barry george sun libel" will give you plenty to back up my "claims". I am surprised that you need help to back up what you call claims. It is established fact that Barry George has won "substantial damages" from News Group Newspapers, publishers of the Sun and News of the World, for libel.