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Offline Steve_uk

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« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2017, 03:22:AM »
She licked her finger to rub out the spot of food debris.
The FDA prohibits the use alright, and there is a huge document prepared in mid 2015 to determine protocols for forensics in America. What Miller did violates about 50 of these guidelines.
This is wasting time Steve, as I said we know who did the crime and why. It will become clear later this year.
That's a very lame excuse, and one Lundy himself never came up with. You only have to look at his face to see how witnessing the death of his daughter in particular has impacted his demeanour, because you see, however meticulously you plan a murder nothing can ever prepare you for the bloody ramifications of the mutilation that follows.

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« Reply #76 on: February 26, 2017, 08:27:AM »
That's a very lame excuse, and one Lundy himself never came up with. You only have to look at his face to see how witnessing the death of his daughter in particular has impacted his demeanour, because you see, however meticulously you plan a murder nothing can ever prepare you for the bloody ramifications of the mutilation that follows.
Steve the case is moving fairly quickly now. He will be exonerated soon, and you can follow it by searching the internet.
I post partly to provide information, and also to help move public opinion. This is important for the recording of history, and for the relatives of falsely accused to progress their lives without being shaded by these falsities.

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« Reply #77 on: February 26, 2017, 01:56:PM »
Steve the case is moving fairly quickly now. He will be exonerated soon, and you can follow it by searching the internet.
I post partly to provide information, and also to help move public opinion. This is important for the recording of history, and for the relatives of falsely accused to progress their lives without being shaded by these falsities.
Samson I will reserve judgement for awhile. I have to admit before studying the David Bain case my closest connection with your country was my Daniel Wellington watch. But since reading James McNeish's Mask of Sanity I have come to accept reluctantly the universality of sin and whilst those who perpetrate the most heinous crimes should pay proportionately for their crimes I cannot help but wonder whether New Zealand is a victim like all other Western economies of the harsh welfare cuts and the growing disparity in wealth resulting from them.

In this regard I have developed my own timeline to explain the David Bain murders:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/what-happens-when-you-scrap-the-welfare-state-new-zealand-has-and-its-economy-is-stronger-but-there-1428688.html

and Mark Lundy's crimes:  https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/10/17/welf-o17.html

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« Reply #78 on: February 26, 2017, 04:39:PM »
What is happening samson , the most up to date information I can find is Feb 2016. Is there anything that's happened recently and can you point  me in the right direction.

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« Reply #79 on: March 04, 2017, 03:07:AM »
What is happening samson , the most up to date information I can find is Feb 2016. Is there anything that's happened recently and can you point  me in the right direction.
Yes, in fact we had a long meeting yesterday. The defence is in disarray for various reasons. The biggest problem is the retention of one of 3 trial defence attorneys, who is keenly interested in pretending they made no mistakes though the result is a consummately innocent man in jail again.
They actually made catastrophic errors, and it is down to one thing. They accepted the validity of immunohistochemistry, so the crown had a walkover.
The tissue was degraded and dry, when IHC demands fresh formalin preserved tissue. IHC is designed to best select from a range of cancers an organ biopsy might present, where the tissue type is known. The test in this case was totally back to front and illegal in the USA. It is not allowed in criminal forensics, and for an excellent reason, which this case will soon show. This was not brain tissue on a shirt, no it was not, but whatever it was had preservative before it got to the shirt. You get that?
Unfortunately as we know, direct appeals in murder cases are doomed because appeal court judges will do anything, twist any fact or circumstance to validate the decision of 12 rank and often unemployed amateurs.
Unless you would allow a jury to crew an airplane from cockpit to tail, don't trust them to understand science in a case like Lundy. Poor sod, he is doomed unless...we have some inventive ideas.
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« Reply #80 on: March 04, 2017, 04:22:PM »
I'm confused in one breath you say he will be exonerated soon and in the next you says he's doomed. Which is it?

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« Reply #81 on: March 04, 2017, 07:28:PM »
I'm confused in one breath you say he will be exonerated soon and in the next you says he's doomed. Which is it?
Ask Schrodinger's cat  :)
Seriously I don't know. There are a bunch of private prosecutions for perjury by police and expert witnesses that could theoretically be taken and modern history suggests that would work in New Zealand. There is currently running an intriguing case where a private prosecution is going forward in the high court, by Arthur Taylor versus secret witness C in the David Tamihere case who DID NOT kill two Swedish tourists in 1989. 28 years later it is hot and he will win. This case has become linked because witness C twice offered his services in Lundy trials, and the police tried to use him but decided that was too risky. He is in fact a double killer, and so on. He claimed that Lundy confessed to him in a prison chapel. That case goes to a 2 week jury trial in August, so should dent the fabric of disgraceful complacency in police judicial and political places.
Unfortunately the Lundy cause is deeply unpopular, his own brother changed his name in shame. Like the Bamber case in England, it is in fact the worst miscarriage of justice in New Zealand history,  so worth attention. There is a vast amount of material surrounding a straightforward case, which is the lamentable state these cases descend to. We know pretty well who killed these two, and the reason why is very simple. Money.

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« Reply #82 on: October 19, 2017, 09:17:PM »
Mark Lundy fresh appeal going on now. Wonder what the outcome will be. Still discussing the brain matter. Not enough petrol also being discussed?

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« Reply #83 on: October 19, 2017, 10:39:PM »
Mark Lundy fresh appeal going on now. Wonder what the outcome will be. Still discussing the brain matter. Not enough petrol also being discussed?
The petrol evidence, namely that Mark Lundy should have had more left in his tank had he travelled the miles he declared, is unlikely to be taken in isolation. I agree the brain matter could be one of the points on which the conviction could be overturned, but it would be a travesty of justice if this were to happen.http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/341911/lundy-defence-not-set-back-by-murder-time-crown
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« Reply #84 on: October 20, 2017, 03:40:PM »
The petrol evidence, namely that Mark Lundy should have had more left in his tank had he travelled the miles he declared, is unlikely to be taken in isolation. I agree the brain matter could be one of the points on which the conviction could be overturned, but it would be a travesty of justice if this were to happen.http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/341911/lundy-defence-not-set-back-by-murder-time-crown

Do you think he’s guilty the. Steve

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« Reply #85 on: October 20, 2017, 04:33:PM »
It certainly points to him,notsure.

Pity the funeral video wasn't now available then I could have judged his demeanour.

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« Reply #86 on: October 20, 2017, 04:48:PM »
It certainly points to him,notsure.

Pity the funeral video wasn't now available then I could have judged his demeanour.

I think it’s a complete farce. It was central nervous tissue which could have come from animal meat. Christine’s dna would obviously b on his t shirt she washed his clothes and they were married , he’d eaten chill beef the day before and dropped some on his top.

There were hairs found in between Christine’s fingers that are not lunch’s

There was dna that had never been matched to anyone under both Christine and ambers fingernails

There were footprints inside that didn’t match anyone including Lundy

The back patio doors were open at 11pm

There wasn’t enough petrol in the tank

So many things point to a n other

No way did he do this imo

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« Reply #87 on: October 20, 2017, 06:54:PM »
I think it’s a complete farce. It was central nervous tissue which could have come from animal meat. Christine’s dna would obviously b on his t shirt she washed his clothes and they were married , he’d eaten chill beef the day before and dropped some on his top.

There were hairs found in between Christine’s fingers that are not lunch’s

There was dna that had never been matched to anyone under both Christine and ambers fingernails

There were footprints inside that didn’t match anyone including Lundy

The back patio doors were open at 11pm

There wasn’t enough petrol in the tank

So many things point to a n other

No way did he do this imo
There was a suggestion that Lundy had an accomplice and I'm always suspicious of the person who finds the body. However I think Mark Lundy would have established a more solid alibi for himself had this been the case. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/66011354/mark-lundy-murder-retrial-christine-lundys-brother-accused-of-killings

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« Reply #88 on: October 20, 2017, 09:13:PM »
A second appeal is progressing as I speak. The Prosecution has made a mess in both trials and the fact that Lundy hired an escort on the night of his wife's murder would not have sat well with female jurors. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/no-miscarriage-justice-prosecution-in-mark-lundys-murder-appeal-say-doubt-over-dna-evidence-used-convict-him

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« Reply #89 on: October 21, 2017, 06:31:PM »
A second appeal is progressing as I speak. The Prosecution has made a mess in both trials and the fact that Lundy hired an escort on the night of his wife's murder would not have sat well with female jurors. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/no-miscarriage-justice-prosecution-in-mark-lundys-murder-appeal-say-doubt-over-dna-evidence-used-convict-him

I said that a few posts back..

Hiring an escort doesn’t make him a murderer. If you listened to it and read up on it you would have seen  that an expert has carried out the drive and petrol and there wasn’t enough to do it all.

You haven’t said anything about the hairs found on Christine’s hand and the unknowns dna Under both Christine and ambers fingernails