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Offline David1819

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2016, 08:02:PM »
Yes I found that strange. Not empathizing with Suzy's mother but his own. Does this make him less of a psychopath I wonder?

If he does confess after his mother passes away. It only means he did not want his mother to know what he had done.
"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2016, 07:17:PM »
If he does confess after his mother passes away. It only means he did not want his mother to know what he had done.

It would not surprise me if his mother passes and then Cannan sais I didn't do anything  ::)
"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2016, 07:40:PM »
It would not surprise me if his mother passes and then Cannan sais I didn't do anything  ::)
John Cannan, Ted Bundy, Jeremy Bamber..welcome to the world of sociopathy where the world revolves around them and no-one else.

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2016, 09:02:PM »
John Cannan, Ted Bundy, Jeremy Bamber..welcome to the world of sociopathy where the world revolves around them and no-one else.

Even if assume Jeremy is guilty. He is not on the same level of depravity as Ted Bundy.  Cannan could have matched or even surpassed Bundys kill count had he not been caught.
"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2016, 09:43:PM »
Even if assume Jeremy is guilty. He is not on the same level of depravity as Ted Bundy.  Cannan could have matched or even surpassed Bundys kill count had he not been caught.
Cannan and Bundy killed for sexual gratification, Bamber for money. Bundy also practised cannibalism and necrophilia as did Luka Magnotta and Jeffrey Dahmer, the motive for which is beyond most people's comprehension.

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2016, 10:46:AM »
It wasn't JB who knew about owning half the land which AE and PE were farming !! Nor did JB know the full worth of the place. Relatives knew more than he did,so money didn't feature.

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2016, 04:03:PM »
It wasn't JB who knew about owning half the land which AE and PE were farming !! Nor did JB know the full worth of the place. Relatives knew more than he did,so money didn't feature.
Under the terms of the will Jeremy was tied to the Farm for the duration of his parents' lifetimes and I think Nevill realized his son had been snooping when he requested a new safe key from Barbara. If Nevill died and June survived the estate would pass to June, whom Jeremy believed had been stingy to him, and if both parents died Jeremy would have to share his inheritance with Sheila, and we know from Doris Foakes his opinion on that front. Only with the death of all five members of his family would he ensure the entire estate, which would simultaneously liberate him from the Farm and all the duties that entailed.
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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2016, 09:35:AM »
Steve Wright may have been the murderer of Natalie Pearman according to David Wilson but I haven't researched it, I saw it on a programme over the weekend.

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2018, 05:58:PM »
Apparently Police have a new lead and are digging under the garage of John Cannan's late mother's house in Sutton Coldfield. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/30/killing-suzy-lamplugh-women-estate-agent-murdered

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2018, 06:06:PM »
Let's not forget that Steve Wright also knew Suzy when the three of them worked on the QEII.

Wright's father spoke out last year telling of his suspicions as his son had been on shore leave around the time that Suzy went missing.

 
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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2018, 06:33:PM »
Let's not forget that Steve Wright also knew Suzy when the three of them worked on the QEII.

Wright's father spoke out last year telling of his suspicions as his son had been on shore leave around the time that Suzy went missing.
Hi lookout it's good to see you posting again. It's interesting about the Wright connection but I still feel Canaan is the prime suspect.

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2018, 07:19:PM »
Hi lookout it's good to see you posting again. It's interesting about the Wright connection but I still feel Canaan is the prime suspect.





Thankyou Steve.
What I'd like to see are the E-Fit pics of the two men so I'm going to try and find them to compare with descriptions given.

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2018, 07:49:PM »
Steve,even Fred West was linked to her disappearance at one time.
Although thousands of people were questioned police omitted or overlooked the questioning of sexual offenders who'd been released at the time.
Neither had alarm bells rang after Cannan had been released in 1981 after a short sentence,though a serious charge of rape. He was never monitored after release and as a consequence had slipped through the net of the initial investigation.
Met police later had to apologise  for their missed opportunity after Rachel Banks was murdered.

 

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2018, 08:03:PM »
I'm slightly on the fence with this case insomuch as police at the time of a review of Cannan had taken it upon themselves to say that " he was the only suspect " whereby the CPS had stated that there'd been insufficient evidence to charge him.
I await the findings of the excavation------of which there'd been one or two in the past,one being at a barracks but nothing was ever found after having used specialist equipment.

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Re: John Cannan: grammar school boy turned serial killer
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2018, 05:52:PM »
I suppose some may wish for the definitive proof in the form of a body, though I have always disliked the Americanism "closure", as if it somehow alleviates the bereavement, the loss, the loneliness endured by the death of a loved one. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-46036826

Suzy's parents died having never discovered the full truth. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/973418/murdered-suzy-lamplugh-father-dies-age-87-london-uk
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