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Re: EU Referendum
« Reply #180 on: August 03, 2020, 08:33:AM »
The EU slush fund..https://youtu.be/KelpEt0lTDs

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« Reply #181 on: August 18, 2020, 09:08:AM »
Young Muslim men aged 18-26 coming in from a safe country..https://youtu.be/kVasr1YYZT0?list=WL

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« Reply #182 on: August 18, 2020, 10:08:AM »
Young Muslim men aged 18-26 coming in from a safe country..https://youtu.be/kVasr1YYZT0?list=WL

Don't mind Farage to an extent but he can seem a bit Alan Partridge at times.  This dinghy issue is being used to stir up division, with globalist remainers still smarting from 2016 on one side and everyone else on the other side. Unfortunately, 'everyone else' does include a right wing component who may hold certain prejudices and display a lack of empathy. To be honest it's hard to tell fact from fiction, which just about somes up the world we live in.
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« Reply #183 on: August 18, 2020, 11:03:AM »
Don't mind Farage to an extent but he can seem a bit Alan Partridge at times.  This dinghy issue is being used to stir up division, with globalist remainers still smarting from 2016 on one side and everyone else on the other side. Unfortunately, 'everyone else' does include a right wing component who may hold certain prejudices and display a lack of empathy. To be honest it's hard to tell fact from fiction, which just about somes up the world we live in.
When I look back to the genuine Jewish refugee crisis of the 1930s there's really no comparison whatsoever, plus we have the terrorist element today which we didn't have then. We won't stop these opportunistic young men and the criminal gangs until word gets round that applications will be processed offshore and have agreements with these third countries, which I know may prove difficult. https://youtu.be/XlIiJ8b37EM

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Re: EU Referendum
« Reply #184 on: October 18, 2020, 07:44:PM »
An excellent analysis of the history of Brexit negotiations by ex-barrister Alexander Mercouris. https://youtu.be/wwDIKxxgsQ4

It's such a pity there was a professional scandal in his recent past. https://www.legalcheek.com/2017/07/barrister-who-was-disbarred-after-forging-lady-hale-letter-sued-for-200000-by-ex-client/

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Re: EU Referendum
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« Reply #186 on: November 30, 2020, 09:06:PM »
It's not looking good for a deal at this late stage: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/eu-will-not-fall-into-brexit-negotiating-trap-uk-told/ar-BB1btZlb?ocid=msedgntp
Brexit seems to have taken a back seat with a lot of people at moment Steve due to COVID, we’ve had it rammed down our throats for four years now, I sometimes ask is a trade deal that important, do we still want to be dictated by France and Germany?  I think our trade with Europe will diminish even further i think Britain's trade is going to shift away from Europe anyway because other markets will grow faster than Europe.  The thing that amuses me more than anything, listening to SNP from Scotland sucking up to the EU and trying to sell Britain out.

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« Reply #187 on: November 30, 2020, 10:31:PM »
Brexit seems to have taken a back seat with a lot of people at moment Steve due to COVID, we’ve had it rammed down our throats for four years now, I sometimes ask is a trade deal that important, do we still want to be dictated by France and Germany? I think our trade with Europe will diminish even further i think Britain's trade is going to shift away from Europe anyway because other markets will grow faster than Europe.  The thing that amuses me more than anything, listening to SNP from Scotland sucking up to the EU and trying to sell Britain out.
It looks like Polly Toynbee knows more than the rest of us..https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/boris-johnson-will-get-a-deal-but-it-will-be-a-betrayal-of-the-brexiters/ar-BB1buOks?ocid=msedgntp

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« Reply #188 on: December 01, 2020, 07:36:AM »
It looks like Polly Toynbee knows more than the rest of us..https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/boris-johnson-will-get-a-deal-but-it-will-be-a-betrayal-of-the-brexiters/ar-BB1buOks?ocid=msedgntp
Its obvious Steve both sides want a deal, the only problem with the EU, they want to quash the threat that’s looming from other Countries who could possibly leave as well, Italy, Poland and Hungary.  So they still want to tie us to Europe and not become the Independent Country we sought, in other words they want to make us pay.  It’s been like a game of Chess, a Chess game that’s gone on too long with both sides looking for a win, I think the EU has the advantage personally, it’s whether they want to play out that advantage and grind out a difficult end game with not much time left, or walk away from talks or offer a draw.  Both sides will claim victory in any event, while us the Pawn’s in the middle (voters) will probably be sacrificed to save their face.
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Re: EU Referendum
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« Reply #190 on: December 24, 2020, 03:24:PM »
I suspect the UK side has given in on everything of importance.  It will be a betrayal.  I should not be surprised if this deal is even harmful to Britain and will be signed anyway because the EU27 are, after all, our "European partners".

There has to be a ratification process and I wonder if there will be opposition domestically that derails whatever monstrosity they have come up with.
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« Reply #191 on: December 24, 2020, 04:21:PM »
But we have left the EU, we should not be under the jurisdiction of the European Court (or there will be a transition period), we will have free movement of goods and services including along the Irish border, we will keep our own defence forces under our control, we will not have to change to the Euro currency.

I'm quite optimistic at this point.

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« Reply #192 on: December 25, 2020, 02:54:AM »
But we have left the EU, we should not be under the jurisdiction of the European Court (or there will be a transition period), we will have free movement of goods and services including along the Irish border, we will keep our own defence forces under our control, we will not have to change to the Euro currency.

I'm quite optimistic at this point.

I agree that the long-term trajectory of things looks promising.  We should be gradually moving away from alignment with the EU.  Brexit was just the beginning of what will be an evolutionary process as the relationship changes and Britain rediscovers old ties and finds new opportunities.  However, I want to see the details of this 'deal'.  On past form, Mr Johnson cannot be trusted in what he says - in my view.
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« Reply #193 on: December 31, 2020, 06:21:PM »
I suppose if you're nomophobic with a pet chihuahua driving to Spain things might become a little awkward for you..https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/10-things-that-will-change-in-the-uk-on-1-january-because-of-brexit/ar-BB1cnR2T?ocid=msedgntp
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« Reply #194 on: January 01, 2021, 03:29:PM »