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« Reply #105 on: July 12, 2019, 10:00:PM »
I think that's true of just about everything now and I fully believe that if we leave the EU iut will only get worse.
Agreed, just come back from Spain, fabulous country now.  We lead the way and as Europe rebuilt they took our blueprints and modernised them, they now have great welfare services and we are wrecked and just getting ready to finish ourselves off.   In Germany state pension is 26k a year and France £24 so we seem to be missing something.

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« Reply #106 on: July 12, 2019, 11:09:PM »
Agreed, just come back from Spain, fabulous country now.  We lead the way and as Europe rebuilt they took our blueprints and modernised them, they now have great welfare services and we are wrecked and just getting ready to finish ourselves off.   In Germany state pension is 26k a year and France £24 so we seem to be missing something.

We certainly do! We've become lost and seem to be trawling through one weak, inept leader after another. Most politicians are in it for themselves, siphoning off as much as they can from expenses while more and more 'working' people are having to use food banks. Someone flushed the chain and we're disappearing up the U bend!

Just watched a 3 part series about the area I grew up in. When I was kid, there was a massive sense of community and people were proud to work. It was a mining area and it just pains me to see how it is now. Although the programme makers have portrayed it to be much worse than it is, it's certainly bad enough. This is Britain folks!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07dhcfb

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« Reply #107 on: July 13, 2019, 10:40:AM »
We certainly do! We've become lost and seem to be trawling through one weak, inept leader after another. Most politicians are in it for themselves, siphoning off as much as they can from expenses while more and more 'working' people are having to use food banks. Someone flushed the chain and we're disappearing up the U bend!

Just watched a 3 part series about the area I grew up in. When I was kid, there was a massive sense of community and people were proud to work. It was a mining area and it just pains me to see how it is now. Although the programme makers have portrayed it to be much worse than it is, it's certainly bad enough. This is Britain folks!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07dhcfb
Well the privileged are back in charge.  Low wages are not the fault of immigrants they are the fault of the appalling government over the past 10 years.  It is true what you say about mining areas they were devastated and have never really recovered.  I know that Liverpool has benefitted massively from EU grants as I believe has Newcastle but our own government has diminished so many benefits and protection gained by the working people over generations. It’s all about a quick buck.  Unions gave workers a sense of community and control over their lives and with the loss of that sense of identity many have turned to Farage and Brexit as a source of hope but he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing only out for himself and his mates such as Trump, Banks, Assange and goodness only knows who else

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« Reply #108 on: July 23, 2019, 01:22:PM »
Well the privileged are back in charge.  Low wages are not the fault of immigrants they are the fault of the appalling government over the past 10 years.  It is true what you say about mining areas they were devastated and have never really recovered.  I know that Liverpool has benefitted massively from EU grants as I believe has Newcastle but our own government has diminished so many benefits and protection gained by the working people over generations. It’s all about a quick buck.  Unions gave workers a sense of community and control over their lives and with the loss of that sense of identity many have turned to Farage and Brexit as a source of hope but he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing only out for himself and his mates such as Trump, Banks, Assange and goodness only knows who else

Now the games begin!

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« Reply #109 on: July 23, 2019, 01:34:PM »
As far as immigration is concerned I hope we can move to a points based system or at least issue work permits which have to be renewed after a period so at least we're not lumbered with low-skilled non-English speaking immigrants who can only become a burden to our welfare state in the long term.
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« Reply #110 on: July 23, 2019, 05:12:PM »
I think it's a bit late in the day for that Steve. It should have been implemented years ago.

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« Reply #111 on: July 23, 2019, 05:36:PM »
I think it's a bit late in the day for that Steve. It should have been implemented years ago.
The problem is that London, the South East, Greater Manchester to name but three regions are full, whilst Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland probably could take more.

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« Reply #112 on: July 23, 2019, 06:08:PM »
The problem is that London, the South East, Greater Manchester to name but three regions are full, whilst Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland probably could take more.




According to past census's both Northern Ireland and Wales have had their share  ( quite a high percentage )of immigrants over the years though Scotland seems to have had fewer. It's England that's had the bulk obviously.

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« Reply #113 on: July 23, 2019, 06:10:PM »
Not all wagons leaving Dover are searched either.

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« Reply #114 on: August 01, 2019, 08:42:PM »
From today's Times newspaper:

Tax break to halt young brain drain

Poland has abolished income tax for more than two million young people in an attempt to reverse its "brain drain" and lure graduates back from overseas.

Nearly 1.7 million Poles, including 580,000 with degrees, have found work in other European countries, leaving the mother country with an acute shortage of skilled labour, in particular scientists, doctors and IT specialists.

Mateusz Morawiecki, 51, the prime minister, told parliament: "We have to draw the young people back. Over the past 30 years Poland has asked too much of its young people and has not done enough to help them. Employers were not ready to raise salaries for their young workers, so we will do it through scrapping their income tax".

As of today, Poles under the age of 26 earning up to 85,500 zlotys (£18,200) a year will be exempted from the 18 per cent basic rate of tax.

The reform makes good on one of the central pledges made to voters by Mr. Morawiecki's arch-conservative Law and Justice Party before the European parliamentary elections in May.

Poland's average annual income per person is about £5500, compared with £15,500 across the EU as a whole. Those leaving are overwhelmingly the young: the country's median age has risen from 36 in 2000 to 41 last year.

The UK is home to the largest chunk of the Polish diaspora at 764,000.
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« Reply #115 on: August 19, 2019, 12:24:PM »
From today's Times newspaper:

Tax break to halt young brain drain

Poland has abolished income tax for more than two million young people in an attempt to reverse its "brain drain" and lure graduates back from overseas.

Nearly 1.7 million Poles, including 580,000 with degrees, have found work in other European countries, leaving the mother country with an acute shortage of skilled labour, in particular scientists, doctors and IT specialists.

Mateusz Morawiecki, 51, the prime minister, told parliament: "We have to draw the young people back. Over the past 30 years Poland has asked too much of its young people and has not done enough to help them. Employers were not ready to raise salaries for their young workers, so we will do it through scrapping their income tax".

As of today, Poles under the age of 26 earning up to 85,500 zlotys (£18,200) a year will be exempted from the 18 per cent basic rate of tax.

The reform makes good on one of the central pledges made to voters by Mr. Morawiecki's arch-conservative Law and Justice Party before the European parliamentary elections in May.

Poland's average annual income per person is about £5500, compared with £15,500 across the EU as a whole. Those leaving are overwhelmingly the young: the country's median age has risen from 36 in 2000 to 41 last year.

The UK is home to the largest chunk of the Polish diaspora at 764,000.

The polish have has a positive impact on the UK

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3556852/Why-Britain-needs-Polish-migrants.html

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« Reply #116 on: August 19, 2019, 02:14:PM »
The Polish are hard workers and are the only ones who'll do the menial tasks that our own won't.

I voted Remain and am sorely disappointed in this outcome. To Remain is to believe in democracy and freedom of movement which the Brexit vote is blocking. Why ?

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« Reply #117 on: August 19, 2019, 03:19:PM »
Not all wagons leaving Dover are searched either.


Perhaps not, but the Port Authorities clearly believed our coach to be full of potential terrorists and made us all get off to have our passports individually scrutinized, forcing us to wait another hour for a sailing!!!

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« Reply #118 on: August 19, 2019, 04:55:PM »

Perhaps not, but the Port Authorities clearly believed our coach to be full of potential terrorists and made us all get off to have our passports individually scrutinized, forcing us to wait another hour for a sailing!!!




I've had that happen to my friend and myself in the past coming back from Northern France.

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« Reply #119 on: August 19, 2019, 08:18:PM »
The polish have has a positive impact on the UK

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/3556852/Why-Britain-needs-Polish-migrants.html
Of course they have. Do you think the elderly, handicapped or infirm have come to the UK? Why has the Polish government offered a bribe to their young when they have already lost revenue from the talented workforce they have lost?