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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix)
« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2016, 11:34:AM »
im still sort of the belief that avery did it.

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« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2016, 04:53:PM »
Did anyone see the follow up documentary on Sky (ID) on Saturday night?

Yeah, interesting points made in rebuttal to the documentary. It pushed me even more to not feeling sure of his innocence.

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix)
« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2016, 06:03:PM »
Did anyone see the follow up documentary on Sky (ID) on Saturday night?

The interrogation of the nephew was appalling.  They could have got him to admit to anything just so he could go back to school.
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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix)
« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2016, 07:19:PM »
Did anyone see the follow up documentary on Sky (ID) on Saturday night?
Hi Caroline did not see it, wonder if it's on catch up? Is it worth watching?  Something on tonight at 9.00 on sky ID wonder if it's the same?
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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix)
« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2016, 07:35:PM »
Hi Caroline did not see it, wonder if it's on catch up? Is it worth watching?  Something on tonight at 9.00 on sky ID wonder if it's the same?

Yes, it is on the catch up screen but is also repeated all week on ID
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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix)
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2016, 07:36:PM »
Yeah, interesting points made in rebuttal to the documentary. It pushed me even more to not feeling sure of his innocence.

I'm really not sure, think more reading is required.
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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix)
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2016, 10:45:PM »
guilty or innocent i cant say i like him.

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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix)
« Reply #52 on: April 20, 2017, 11:02:AM »
Surely, the judge ruling that Brendan Dassey was tricked into making his statement, this would make the conviction of Steven Avery unsafe?
The judge ruled in August that investigators tricked Mr Dassey into confessing he helped his uncle, Steven Avery, rape, kill and mutilate photographer Teresa Halbach in 2005. 


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/making-a-murderer-brendan-dassey-steven-avery-teresa-halbach-a7417351.html
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Re: Making a Murderer (Netflix)
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2017, 02:06:AM »
Surely, the judge ruling that Brendan Dassey was tricked into making his statement, this would make the conviction of Steven Avery unsafe?
The judge ruled in August that investigators tricked Mr Dassey into confessing he helped his uncle, Steven Avery, rape, kill and mutilate photographer Teresa Halbach in 2005. 


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/making-a-murderer-brendan-dassey-steven-avery-teresa-halbach-a7417351.html
I recommend Jerome Buting's book highly, Illusion of Justice. It really tells the whole story accurately

On kindle

https://www.amazon.com/Illusion-Justice-Inside-Murderer-Americas-ebook/dp/B01GCCXNG2/ref=sr_1_1_twi_kin_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492736275&sr=8-1&keywords=illusion+of+justice

Here is a general quote from Buting, a theme often repeated by researchers of these travesties

"Even when cases go to trial, the presumption of virtue accorded to prosecutors can obscure the truth, as I believe it did in the trials of Steven Avery. Most prosecutors are ethical people, dedicated to seeking justice and not simply racking up convictions, but there are many documented
examples of individuals who corrupt the system by distorting the truth; by hiding or destroying evidence; and by misleading judges and juries to achieve, and maintain, a guilty verdict at all costs. Often this is done with at least the tacit approval of the officials under whom they serve. And many judges pay lip service to high-minded principles of fairness, yet all the while clearing the path to a preordained end."

I have studied and read a lot lately, cases in many countries including New Zealand.
They all involve withholding evidence, planting evidence, abuse of science by expert witnesses, and straightforward lying by police and secret and not so secret witnesses.

Ofcourse all this applies to the case of Jeremy Bamber and Julie Mugford.
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