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Offline Steve_uk

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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2015, 12:19:AM »
What forensic evidence is there against Bain ?

I suppose of the millions of convicted criminals over the  centuries, there will always be some that will fight to get released. Despite lots of forensic evidence against them. They will be looking at a technicality.
They didn't go for a technicality. Karam stuck to his agenda of the whole case being thrown out.

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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2015, 12:22:AM »
What forensic evidence is there against Bain ?

I suppose of the millions of convicted criminals over the  centuries, there will always be some that will fight to get released. Despite lots of forensic evidence against them. They will be looking at a technicality.

Bain was given a retrial after 13 years in prison and found not guilty.

http://www.justice.govt.nz/media/in-focus/topic-library/David-Bain-reports/justice-binnie



"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2015, 12:23:AM »
http://davidbain.counterspin.co.nz/evidence-david

A mountain of evidence then. Just like the Bamber case.

Bamber has failed to get a retrial, so there must be more evidence.
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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2015, 12:25:AM »
A mountain of evidence then. Just like the Bamber case.

On what grounds did they try to get the case thrown out ?
Well they secured a retrial, so thrown out is not technically accurate.

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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2015, 12:26:AM »
Neither Jeremy nor David have confessed. It's strange that much anecdotal evidence has been removed from the Counterspin site and the Bryan Bruce documentary from youtube. What have they got to hide? As I said before, there is a great deal of forensic evidence against Bain; none against his dad.

Neither Jeremy nor David have confessed. One possible explanation is that they did not commit the crime.


The court concluded there was more evidence against robin than there was against David.

"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2015, 12:30:AM »
A mountain of evidence then. Just like the Bamber case.

Bamber has failed to get a retrial, so there must be more evidence.

There was no mountain against David. people just started to think David done it then began seeing what they wanted to see. Like with the West Menphis Three society gets into a collective mindset of dogmatic suspicion and stupidity.
"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2015, 12:30:AM »
I can't see Bamber getting a retrial. There us so much forensic and circumstantial evidence against him.

Even this month my threads using the 2002 appeal has highlighted how the crime scene evidence all points to Bamber.
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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2015, 12:31:AM »
Neither Jeremy nor David have confessed. One possible explanation is that they did not commit the crime.


The court concluded there was more evidence against robin than there was against David.
No the jury chose to believe the hearsay evidence of pimp Dean Cottle read out by the judge,giving it extra weight than if Cottle himself had testified.

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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2015, 12:33:AM »
I can't see Bamber getting a retrial. There us so much forensic and circumstantial evidence against him.

No there is not. you see what you want to see.

Retrial after 30 years? not possible too late.
"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2015, 12:35:AM »
No there is not. you see what you want to see.

Retrial after 30 years? not possible too late.

There is a mountain of forensic evidence. But if you are with Lookout and Mike on this, feel free.

A retrial will be in at least 40 years after conviction. The next CCRC application is a long way off.
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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2015, 12:35:AM »
No the jury chose to believe the hearsay evidence of pimp Dean Cottle read out by the judge,giving it extra weight than if Cottle himself had testified.

Steve Robins Bains blood was inside the rifle this only happens in contact wounds. This demolishes the theory of David hiding behind the curtains then shooting
"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2015, 12:41:AM »
There is a mountain of forensic evidence. But if you are with Lookout and Mike on this, feel free.

The mountain of forensic evidence just like your library of evidence is

"Truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."

"The idea that he could invent a tale of a killing spree by a mentally disturbed woman to be lent credibility by further violent episodes over the following decades is hard to credit."

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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2015, 12:44:AM »
Steve Robins Bains blood was inside the rifle this only happens in contact wounds. This demolishes the theory of David hiding behind the curtains then shooting
But there was none of any of the other victims on Robin. There was, however a microscopic pinprick of blood on one of his fingernails, which formed as bloodspatter as David shot him from the alcove curtain whilst his father's hands were resting on his cheeks in his usual praying position.
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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2015, 12:48:AM »
Both murders premeditated for a period of months at least, both murders coldly and callously executed for the benefit of the protagonist, and both murderers rightly found guilty in a court of law until the New Zealand criminal justice system buckled under the onslaught of All Black role model Joe Karam.

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Re: David Bain similairities to Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2015, 12:54:AM »
The mountain of forensic evidence just like your library of evidence is



Well all the forensic evidence is fact and there is a mountain of it. But appreciate supporters don't want to admit this. So you have created a cartoon.

Even this month, my excellent threads on the crimes scenes of the five individuals and the kitchen fight, have highlighted countless devastating forensic facts against Bamber. Thanks to the primary source of the 2002 appeal.

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