Video about Julie Mugford

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Strange, is it not, that an "untruth" out of some mouths is a lie, whilst out of others, it's merely a mistake.

Reader claims Jeremy got dressed and called Julie before claling police.

1) I fail to see how someone can make a mistake and accidentally say he immediately called police if he didn't call police until 26 minutes after the event and during those 26 minutes dressed, called Julie and did who knows what else.

2) I fail to see how someone can accidentally say they immediately called police after receiving a call at 3:10 so saying he called police around 3:12 and then after he was done called Julie at 3:25 and yet to have meant to say he called Julie first

3) I fail to see how Jeremy could have meant to say he calle dJulie first and immediately was  amsitake when at trial and as recently as when Caroline contacted Jeremy he still insisted he called police first.

Reader is trying to pretend Jeremy said something he doesn't.  He is trying to pretend Jeremy maintains he dressed and calle dJulie before police though he doesn't.

Reader's lie is because if Jeremy dressed and called Julie after getting off the phone with police tha tmeans there is no way in hell Jeremy coudl have phoned police at 3:36.  But Reader wants to pretend Jeremy phoned police at 3:36 to pretend Nevill called at 3:26.  So he is dishonestly trying to revise history and pretend Jeremy was trying to say he called Julie before police but made a mistake in how he wrote it.

What a farce. 

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Reader claims Jeremy got dressed and called Julie before claling police.

1) I fail to see how someone can make a mistake and accidentally say he immediately called police if he didn't call police until 26 minutes after the event and during those 26 minutes dressed, called Julie and did who knows what else.

2) I fail to see how someone can accidentally say they immediately called police after receiving a call at 3:10 so saying he called police around 3:12 and then after he was done called Julie at 3:25 and yet to have meant to say he called Julie first

3) I fail to see how Jeremy could have meant to say he calle dJulie first and immediately was  amsitake when at trial and as recently as when Caroline contacted Jeremy he still insisted he called police first.

Reader is trying to pretend Jeremy said something he doesn't.  He is trying to pretend Jeremy maintains he dressed and calle dJulie before police though he doesn't.

Reader's lie is because if Jeremy dressed and called Julie after getting off the phone with police tha tmeans there is no way in hell Jeremy coudl have phoned police at 3:36.  But Reader wants to pretend Jeremy phoned police at 3:36 to pretend Nevill called at 3:26.  So he is dishonestly trying to revise history and pretend Jeremy was trying to say he called Julie before police but made a mistake in how he wrote it.

What a farce.

It's a clear attempt to bend the phone calls to suit a specific time frame - even if the phone calls can't possibly fit that timeframe. This is something not unique to Reader though.

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 That can work both ways to suit whichever scenario you fancy.

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That can work both ways to suit whichever scenario you fancy.

There is no need to bend anything.  Calling Julie period makes no sense. But the evidence proves he called Julie before police and then lied about which is even more damaging.

Someone in his position would actually received the call claimed would do 1 of 3 things.

1) rapidly dress and rush over to help

2) call 999

3) call 999 then dress and rush over

What did he do?

He called Julie.

At least 10 minutes and possibly 25 minutes after getting off the phone with Julie he finally called police but didn't dial 999.

He either was already dressed when he called Julie or change dhis clothes after and that explains a lot of the gap in time between calling her and police.

How harmful tha tis to jeremy hence why he lied and said he immediately calle dpolice because that is what someone really receiving such a call woudl do and he wanted them to think he received the call.  But he didn't dial 999 but rathe rlooke dup 2 different numbers in a phone book thus showing yet again he had no sense of urgency at all as would have been the case.  Certainly after 1 police station being found with the phones unanned you don't try another- you call 999.

No spinning is needed against Jeremy hsi supporters have to spin because wha the did harmed him.     

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There is no need to bend anything.  Calling Julie period makes no sense. But the evidence proves he called Julie before police and then lied about which is even more damaging.

Someone in his position would actually received the call claimed would do 1 of 3 things.

1) rapidly dress and rush over to help

2) call 999

3) call 999 then dress and rush over

What did he do?

He called Julie.

At least 10 minutes and possibly 25 minutes after getting off the phone with Julie he finally called police but didn't dial 999.

He either was already dressed when he called Julie or change dhis clothes after and that explains a lot of the gap in time between calling her and police.

How harmful tha tis to jeremy hence why he lied and said he immediately calle dpolice because that is what someone really receiving such a call woudl do and he wanted them to think he received the call.  But he didn't dial 999 but rathe rlooke dup 2 different numbers in a phone book thus showing yet again he had no sense of urgency at all as would have been the case.  Certainly after 1 police station being found with the phones unanned you don't try another- you call 999.

No spinning is needed against Jeremy hsi supporters have to spin because wha the did harmed him.     

Why didn't Mugford rapidly get dressed and rush over to WHF to 'help'

This was after all the man/family she was DESPERATE to marry into

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Nice one Jackie. It strikes me that she wasn't that concerned,and as I've said,what was to stop her from getting a taxi and Jeremy paying at the other end ? What WAS stopping her ??

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Why didn't Mugford rapidly get dressed and rush over to WHF to 'help'

This was after all the man/family she was DESPERATE to marry into

Why would she?  He effectively told her that he had killed them.  Moreover, it wasn't her family so why would she try to get a taxi to pick her up to rush over to try to help even if he had called to tell her something was genuinely wrong as opposed to that he killed them which is what she claims he told her.

That is calling her makes no sense, she woudl not give a damn about them.  Calling his relatives to ask them for help might make sense but not calling her. 

In th emeantime claling her before police doesn't make sense which is why Jeremy lied and to this day maintains he called police first despite Reader's dishonest attempts to revise Jeremy's claims to suit Reader's agenda.

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Why didn't Mugford rapidly get dressed and rush over to WHF to 'help'

This was after all the man/family she was DESPERATE to marry into

She was in Lewisham. Not the sort of place you go walking about in at 3am.

She was a student. So could not afford a taxi to Essex. There was no public transport at that time.

The phone at her digs could not dial out.

Jeremy had told her 'Everything is going well'. So she did not need to get involved in someone else's family.

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She was in Lewisham. Not the sort of place you go walking about in at 3am.

She was a student. So could not afford a taxi to Essex. There was no public transport at that time.

The phone at her digs could not dial out.

Jeremy had told her 'Everything is going well'. So she did not need to get involved in someone else's family.

You obviously ignored my post stating that she could have got a taxi while Jeremy paid at his end----------------there's NO excuse !!

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She didn't mind being involved " with somebodys' family " when offered accommodation by the Bambers to save her living with Jeremy and ruining their reputation !

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You obviously ignored my post stating that she could have got a taxi while Jeremy paid at his end----------------there's NO excuse !!

Well she would have to go out into Lewisham at 3am to look for a cab office. Not a good idea.

Then hope that a grieving Jeremy has a spare £100 + when she arrives. Although Jeremy may be tied up with police throughout the day.

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Well she would have to go out into Lewisham at 3am to look for a cab office. Not a good idea.

Then hope that a grieving Jeremy has a spare £100 + when she arrives. Although Jeremy may be tied up with police throughout the day.

A genuinely concerned person WOULD have gone,no matter what time it had been. What's time when the message from Jeremy was simple enough to decipher ?
Or was it that she had only just gone to bed-----------smashed ??

You were always on about how wealthy Jeremy was,Boss suit and all that,so why wouldn't he have had £100 in his back pocket ?

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 There was always the money that he " stole " from his dead fathers' wallet ??

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A genuinely concerned person WOULD have gone,no matter what time it had been. What's time when the message from Jeremy was simple enough to decipher ?
Or was it that she had only just gone to bed-----------smashed ??

You were always on about how wealthy Jeremy was,Boss suit and all that,so why wouldn't he have had £100 in his back pocket ?

He had 'one' 10p available to phone her. Luckily. Not sure he would be carrying hundreds.

She was half asleep. So more irritated at being woken than concerned. Telling Jeremy to 'go back to bed' after being told 'everything is going well'.

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10p would have been all the loose change he'd had. Don't remember seeing anything about how much paper money he had ?
Just because someone has only 10p doesn't mean to say that's ALL they had 

The day of harvesting " went well "!