Author Topic: The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003  (Read 727051 times)

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exept her sister dident rember her borrowing it.

couldent recognise it is hers untill many days later.

how would bllod get on your girlfriends t shirt sperm dont need explaining blood does.

how does sperm get from the front of a t shirt to the strap of a bra.

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There were numerous unidentified DNA profiles found on the victim. 

One profile however was identified as coming from the victim's sister's boyfriend. The profile came from a t-shirt which the victim had earlier borrowed from her sister.
Thanks for that John,But I still fail to see the link to the accused.
I suppose the police tried to make a match of the other dna found on the victim with friends ect.
Were the police able to rule out this dna as not important.

They did and unsuccessfully.  The strange thing is that Mitchell didn't have any of Jodi's DNA on his clothing nor his on her when they had been together (close contact) earlier that day.

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So how did Jodi fight for her life exactly when she had no foreign DNA on her hands or nails?

We know she was bludgeoned from behind and then had her throat cut.

Jodi never touched her attacker...do keep up!

the patholigist said she fought for her life but luke mitchell dident have a mark on him.

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There were numerous unidentified DNA profiles found on the victim. 

One profile however was identified as coming from the victim's sister's boyfriend. The profile came from a t-shirt which the victim had earlier borrowed from her sister.
Thanks for that John,But I still fail to see the link to the accused.
I suppose the police tried to make a match of the other dna found on the victim with friends ect.
Were the police able to rule out this dna as not important.

They did and unsuccessfully.  The strange thing is that Mitchell didn't have any of Jodi's DNA on his clothing nor his on her when they had been together (close contact) earlier that day.

 but theres no evedence they had been in close contact.

they say each other at scholl.

now if they dident touch each other there wouldent be.

luke mitchells hair was dirty and unwashed acording to the police.

his finger nails were dirty as well so how could he have cleaned himself up.

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So how did Jodi fight for her life exactly when she had no foreign DNA on her hands or nails?

We know she was bludgeoned from behind and then had her throat cut.

Jodi never touched her attacker...do keep up!

the patholigist said she fought for her life but luke mitchell dident have a mark on him.

How did she fight?   Can't wait to hear this one!

John

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There were numerous unidentified DNA profiles found on the victim. 

One profile however was identified as coming from the victim's sister's boyfriend. The profile came from a t-shirt which the victim had earlier borrowed from her sister.
Thanks for that John,But I still fail to see the link to the accused.
I suppose the police tried to make a match of the other dna found on the victim with friends ect.
Were the police able to rule out this dna as not important.

They did and unsuccessfully.  The strange thing is that Mitchell didn't have any of Jodi's DNA on his clothing nor his on her when they had been together (close contact) earlier that day.

 but theres no evedence they had been in close contact.

they say each other at scholl.

now if they dident touch each other there wouldent be.

luke mitchells hair was dirty and unwashed acording to the police.

his finger nails were dirty as well so how could he have cleaned himself up.

You are an idiot nugget, just an upstart from beginning to end.  You know dam fine that they were seen together by other pals who had joined them for their daily get together at lunchtime.  Don't come this crap with me mate because I know the facts of this case.

Mitchell went out into the woods after the murder, does that give even you any clues?


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So how did Jodi fight for her life exactly when she had no foreign DNA on her hands or nails?

We know she was bludgeoned from behind and then had her throat cut.

Jodi never touched her attacker...do keep up!

the patholigist said she fought for her life but luke mitchell dident have a mark on him.

How did she fight?   Can't wait to hear this one!

she fought for her life thats a fact the patholigists said so in court.

but luke Mitchell dident have a mark on him.

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So how did Jodi fight for her life exactly when she had no foreign DNA on her hands or nails?

We know she was bludgeoned from behind and then had her throat cut.

Jodi never touched her attacker...do keep up!

the patholigist said she fought for her life but luke mitchell dident have a mark on him.

How did she fight?   Can't wait to hear this one!

she fought for her life thats a fact the patholigists said so in court.

but luke Mitchell dident have a mark on him.

That's because she got slashed on her upper limbs while fending off the knife attack. She never made contact with her attacker since she was incapable of doing so.  Jodi's fingernails contained only material from Jodi, she never touched her attacker no matter how much she struggled to get away.  I wonder how far you would get if bludgeoned over the head with a large stick?


Only her boyfriend would have been on that side of the wall with her in any event. It is not the sort of place you go with a stranger or other boys even if they were known to her.

Have you ever been to the scene Nugget?
« Last Edit: June 13, 2011, 06:05:PM by John »

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the patholigist said she fought for her life now haveing no medical knowledge i have to go with that and you aint qualfied to say otherwise.

jodi often used the path alone.

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So you know this path then nugget.  Have you ever been to it?

Which part of defensive wounds don't you understand. Maybe you should get Sandra to explain this for you being that little bit dim!
« Last Edit: June 13, 2011, 11:48:PM by John »

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and what part of fought for her life dont you understand.

they dident say struggled they said fought for her life.

there was no forensic clean up becouse luke wasnt clean simple really.

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Whom did she fight and what did she use because it most certainly wasn't her hands or nails according to the pathologist?

Oh he was forensically clean alright and then went up the woods to get uncontaminated dirt on him prior to any examination.  Do you think the authorities are stupid nugget?

You never could answer the questions about Luke's whereabouts after leaving school and the discrepancies in the brothers evidence, neither could Corinne Mitchell.

If I recall she complained about her blood pressure the last time she was caught out...not surprised really as she was nailed to the floor.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2011, 02:53:AM by John »

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Judy Jones referred to Mitchell as a SOCIOPATH>>>

Profile of the Sociopath

Some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They     appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.

Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."

Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.

Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

Incapacity for Love

Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.

Poor Behavioural Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.

Early Behaviour Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioural and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviours such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.

Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.

Promiscuous Sexual Behaviour/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.

Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.

Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

In the 1830's this disorder was called "moral insanity." By 1900 it was changed to "psychopathic personality." More recently it has been termed "antisocial personality disorder" in the DSM-III and DSM-IV. Some critics have complained that, in the attempt to rely only on 'objective' criteria, the DSM has broadened the concept to include too many individuals. The APD category includes people who commit illegal, immoral or self-serving acts for a variety of reasons and are not necessarily psychopaths.


It seems Judy was well briefed!
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and persons under 18 years of old cannot be diagniosed  as  sociopaths ..Luke was 14 years old

so judy jones  is an idiot making stupid wild claims about Luke that have no basis...so what is her hidden agenda?...why do that...is she sheilding the real killer..is that why she has lied so much?

your a nasty idiot too john  as well as a  liar..

you seem to fit the profile for being a sociopath fairly well John.....it does not make you a murderer though...for many sociopaths do not kill.

ha ha john...your no longer in the information loop ...

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Whom did she fight and what did she use because it most certainly wasn't her hands or nails according to the pathologist?

Oh he was forensically clean alright and then went up the woods to get uncontaminated dirt on him prior to any examination.  Do you think the authorities are stupid nugget?

You never could answer the questions about Luke's whereabouts after leaving school and the discrepancies in the brothers evidence, neither could Corinne Mitchell.

If I recall she complained about her blood pressure the last time she was caught out...not surprised really as she was nailed to the floor.


yes i know the authority are stupid

big forensic clean up then got dirty agian

dirt under after hes supposed to have cleaned when did he have time to get dirty.