Author Topic: The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003  (Read 723083 times)

0 Members and 13 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16846
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
Do you think the huge difference in treatment right from the start was intentional? Everyone else involved or known to Jodi seems to have been able to give various explanations for their actions and whereabouts even changing the info yet the same didnt apply to Luke.

it might of had something to do with the fact jodis aunt knew the investigating officer

Offline sandra L

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 975
I'd forgotten about that!

The aunt who took care of all the media communications worked with the same child protection unit as the Senior Investigating Officer, I think?

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16846
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
I'd forgotten about that!

The aunt who took care of all the media communications worked with the same child protection unit as the Senior Investigating Officer, I think?

yes she did all the things about the case that was the one that stuck in my mind.

Offline lilly15

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 201
it might of had something to do with the fact jodis aunt knew the investigating officer

I didnt know that... could explain a lot couldnt it?

Offline sandra L

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 975
I was told, years ago, that it was agreed that none of the family would speak to the media except this one aunt because she "knew how to deal with the media".

On the one occasion that Judith did speak to the media directly (after she drunkenly attacked Corinne in her workplace), Judith was quoted as saying, "It's all rubbish - it never happened." Of course, we will never know if that was what she said, or if the media just made that up, but it's the only time, to my knowledge, Judith was ever quoted directly (any other time it was "sources" who spoke on behalf of the family). And it was a lie, because it most certainly did happen!

I just had a thought (how could I not have thought of this before?) If this aunt knew SIO Dobbie at the time, that might explain the aunts' public appeal that included the information about Jodi borrowing clothes from her sister without asking, at exactly the time the DNA results came back with Kelly's DNA on the t-shirt Jodi was wearing.

Offline lilly15

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 201
Extremely good timing? Not like it was planned or anything. The more I read about this case, the more appalled i feel

Offline sandra L

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 975
Exactly - within 48 hours, borrowed t-shirts had become a real thing, even though prior to that, there was no mention of the sisters sharing clothes (they lived in different houses). But it was never proven to be a real thing - throughout her interviews, Janine only said the t-shirt "could have been" hers. Quite bizarrely, the only person to say the t-shirt was Janine's was Kelly himself - how on earth could he have known that? In his statements, he spoke of Janine having 2 identical black t-shirts, saying the one Jodi wore the night she was murdered was one of those two. But Janine said she had "lots" of black t-shirts, mostly plain and six black t-shirts were found in Jodi's bedroom in her own home.

How could Kelly (who didn't live in either house) be so sure about that one t-shirt and, coincidentally, it turned out he was right?

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16846
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
I didnt know that... could explain a lot couldnt it?

wellthe aunt was present at the search but did not take part in the search she stayed in hr car so you have to ask why so bothred to turn up.

the only thing I can think of is she was there to talk to the police when they turned up I'm sure some name droping went on

Offline sandra L

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 975
Good point, nugnug. If the aunts had come to comfort Judith, they would have gone to her house, but they didn't - somehow, they knew to go into the school grounds. Something I thought about today - not only did they know to go into the school grounds, but they knew to drive past the two main car parks, through the "tunnel" connecting the gym to the main building and right down to the back of the school to a bit that can't be seen from the road or the main car parks.

But no-one could have known the police would take the search party up to the school grounds - there was an area at the Newbattle end of the path that could just as easily have been a "meeting" point. It can't be that the aunts knew, before they set off, that the search party was taken to the school because the aunts were already there when the police and searchers arrived.

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16846
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
I was told, years ago, that it was agreed that none of the family would speak to the media except this one aunt because she "knew how to deal with the media".

On the one occasion that Judith did speak to the media directly (after she drunkenly attacked Corinne in her workplace), Judith was quoted as saying, "It's all rubbish - it never happened." Of course, we will never know if that was what she said, or if the media just made that up, but it's the only time, to my knowledge, Judith was ever quoted directly (any other time it was "sources" who spoke on behalf of the family). And it was a lie, because it most certainly did happen!

I just had a thought (how could I not have thought of this before?) If this aunt knew SIO Dobbie at the time, that might explain the aunts' public appeal that included the information about Jodi borrowing clothes from her sister without asking, at exactly the time the DNA results came back with Kelly's DNA on the t-shirt Jodi was wearing.

but what did they fear would happen if they dident handell the press properly was it the drugs they dident want the press picking up on somthing i can see why they would want to keep the pres at bay and it turned out to by a wise decisn but what did they fear happening if they dident.

Offline sandra L

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 975
The one thing I've learned over the years is that most families, right at the beginning, have no idea how awful the media can be and talk to them trustingly ... to begin with, at least. Unless the police, themselves, were advising them to say nothing to the media (and they can't have been, because the aunt was talking to the media), you're right - what could they possibly have been afraid of or worried about?

What it find even more surprising is their need to control how the media portrayed them, given the clear and obvious focus on Luke from the off. Anybody in the area at the time was left in no doubt that the police suspected Luke was the culprit from day two of the investigation, so Jodi's family would have had nothing to "worry" about. For example, the aunts' "appeal" on July 16th (2 weeks and 2 days after the murder) asked for someone in "unacceptance" that one of their own could have done this to stop covering for them - funny old thing that, since that became exactly the police and prosecution line against Corinne. The certainly weren't "afraid" of such an accusation being turned around and pointed in their direction by then, so why the continued need to control the media?

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16846
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
well most people dont try and handle the pollice and the press becouse thy dont think thy need to theyve done wrong so they dont think hey will have any problems.



Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16846
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
i love the wat the record spin everything.

Offline nugnug

  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 16846
    • http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjohnnyvoid.wordpress.com%2F&ei=WTdUUo3IM6mY0QWYz4GADg&usg=AFQjCNE-8xtZuPAZ52VkntYOokH5da5MIA&bvm=bv.5353710
whats allway bothred me about this case is the patholgist said had been moved now did the police moveit or did the kiler or killers move it.