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Re: Daisy
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2014, 09:38:AM »
Morning Raven

just thinking if Jeremy is released in the near future what would be your plans for the book.

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« Reply #61 on: January 11, 2014, 10:10:AM »
This thread does not disturb me at all. I personally don't like JB and have made it no secret. I know how he has used my friends. You may say it is because he has been behind bars for so long. I prefer to believe the obvious. He can be a nasty person and does manage to hurt people and my friends are witness to this.

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« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2014, 10:25:AM »
Morning Grahame

I have never met and never will meet Jeremy Bamber.  I would think people get hurt by him as maybe they expect too much from him and due to the position he is in very difficult for him to form a friendship with anyone and I really feel he is to a certain extent governed by his Campaign Team as he rellies on them so much and would think they call the shots.I have read mixed reviews on the nature and personality of the man but to me it does not make one iota of difference to the fact I think he is innocent and was set up.
No no no Susan. That definitely is not true as I know these people. He can be nasty to those who want to help him and he seems to be able to get rid of them if they happen to disagree with him. That is to do with character, noting to do with being locked up for 28 years. I told him off once because of the way he treated one of my friends. A friend who definitely expected nothing from him and in fact gave a great deal to him.
But of course just because he is not a nice person does not mean he is a murderer.
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Re: Daisy
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2014, 10:38:AM »
Hi Grahame  I suppose really I should not be making comments about Jeremy Bamber as I have never had dealings with him as you have.  I suspect I would not have liked him as a 24 year old but had hoped he had grown out of the arrogant way he appeared to have had then.  It is a shame your friends who were trying to help him have been hurt by him.  I am on a site on Facebook and all the members male and female have dealings with him and they speak so highly of him.  Wonder if being in prison for a crime he did not commit has made him nasty and bitter at times. :'(  I think his attitude at the time of his Trial was awful and he did himself no favours.  I would like to hear what such as Brett Collins said about him and are they still in contact.

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« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2014, 10:47:AM »
I was aware of Daisy wanting to post this.  Though I disagree with what she has done, I must add, in her defence, she meant no malice whatsoever.

Daisy is a dear lady....'old school', is the best way to describe her.  She has an incredibly close family, including a most loving and supportive husband.  The entire family where supportive of Daisy's desire to support a man with no family, who she felt was alone and in need of some genuine moral support, with no ties or complications.  Her friendship with Jeremy was purely that.  Unconditional.

She may have some wealth behind her and maybe Jeremy thought that Daisy's friendship may be of some serious use at a later date.  Daisy was aware of this, however, she did not want to believe she was there solely for the money.  She refused to think ill of Jeremy, even though her family had pointed out  how he mentioned 'her' money to both her and the Campaign team on a few occasions.

What happened on 'that' particular visit was shocking to both Daisy and her husband....who was also with her.  She was, as one can imagine, deeply hurt by this.  Both she and her husband were upset by his actions that morning that a planned afternoon visit was cancelled by them.

Friendship, loyalty and family are at the core of the whole of Daisy's nearest and dearest.  I suppose all she wanted to do was help a vulnerable young man who found himself fighting for his life....and justice.
In that, she has committed no crime, her actions and support were genuine.

The way some of you have attacked Daisy and her postings, is without justification and wholly unnecessary.
Daisy is old enough almost to be his mother.....you have spitefully attacked a harmless lady who meant no harm, other than to warn others who may be in the same position as she was, to be wary of him.
I have known Jeremy for over 20 years.  Both his mental and emotional health have deteriorated (which is without judgement but a fact, due to his imprisonment and age).

Jeremy remains possibly one of the strongest men I have ever had the fortune to meet and I wish him no harm, ever.  Not everybody who has had a relationship with Jeremy has spoken about it either. 

Sadly, I do agree with Daisy on one point.  Like her I believe he is innocent, always have....however, Jeremy has become a political prisoner upon which his release would bring the whole judicial system to its knees.  It's not that he won't be released so much as he can't be released....and that is what Daisy meant also.

Having been through two Appeals with Jeremy, having had meetings with Euan Smith, having been fobbed off with him along with Jeremy whilst he was courted to the CCRC, as Commissioner leaves many unanswered questions.

Ask the right question and you may get the right answer.

Wishing you all a Happy New Year.   :)





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Re: Daisy
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2014, 10:59:AM »
Hello AA

nice to see you.  Think Daisy was wrong to post her feelings with regard Jeremy Bamber if she was a close friend and maybe she would have been better posting on the Blue. 

Happy New Year to you and yours xxx

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« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2014, 11:02:AM »
Hello AA

nice to see you.  Think Daisy was wrong to post her feelings with regard Jeremy Bamber if she was a close friend and maybe she would have been better posting on the Blue. 

Happy New Year to you and yours xxx






Her posting has been brought to the Blue Forum......and look at how she has been attacked.

Why do you think she went to the Red Forum?  Because this is what they had been saying about Jeremy all along. 

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« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2014, 11:41:AM »
I'd be interested to hear the other side of the story.

so would i.

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Re: Daisy
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2014, 12:02:PM »
Personally I am curious as to why she posted this on the so called "red" forum? Wh6y there and not on this forum I wonder?
Another thing that  I find curious is that she said that they had a row in prison and as proof they had recorded it. Well it's only proof if it can be heard and I am sure the prison if it is true would not release such a recording to just anyone? And why would they be interested in recording a conversation anyway?

yes why would they.

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« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2014, 12:46:PM »
I was aware of Daisy wanting to post this.  Though I disagree with what she has done, I must add, in her defence, she meant no malice whatsoever.

Daisy is a dear lady....'old school', is the best way to describe her.  She has an incredibly close family, including a most loving and supportive husband.  The entire family where supportive of Daisy's desire to support a man with no family, who she felt was alone and in need of some genuine moral support, with no ties or complications.  Her friendship with Jeremy was purely that.  Unconditional.

She may have some wealth behind her and maybe Jeremy thought that Daisy's friendship may be of some serious use at a later date.  Daisy was aware of this, however, she did not want to believe she was there solely for the money.  She refused to think ill of Jeremy, even though her family had pointed out  how he mentioned 'her' money to both her and the Campaign team on a few occasions.

What happened on 'that' particular visit was shocking to both Daisy and her husband....who was also with her.  She was, as one can imagine, deeply hurt by this.  Both she and her husband were upset by his actions that morning that a planned afternoon visit was cancelled by them.

Friendship, loyalty and family are at the core of the whole of Daisy's nearest and dearest.  I suppose all she wanted to do was help a vulnerable young man who found himself fighting for his life....and justice.
In that, she has committed no crime, her actions and support were genuine.

The way some of you have attacked Daisy and her postings, is without justification and wholly unnecessary.
Daisy is old enough almost to be his mother.....you have spitefully attacked a harmless lady who meant no harm, other than to warn others who may be in the same position as she was, to be wary of him.
I have known Jeremy for over 20 years.  Both his mental and emotional health have deteriorated (which is without judgement but a fact, due to his imprisonment and age).

Jeremy remains possibly one of the strongest men I have ever had the fortune to meet and I wish him no harm, ever.  Not everybody who has had a relationship with Jeremy has spoken about it either. 

Sadly, I do agree with Daisy on one point.  Like her I believe he is innocent, always have....however, Jeremy has become a political prisoner upon which his release would bring the whole judicial system to its knees.  It's not that he won't be released so much as he can't be released....and that is what Daisy meant also.

Having been through two Appeals with Jeremy, having had meetings with Euan Smith, having been fobbed off with him along with Jeremy whilst he was courted to the CCRC, as Commissioner leaves many unanswered questions.

Ask the right question and you may get the right answer.

Wishing you all a Happy New Year.   :)

Good post AA - I think you're right, we shouldn't be judging Daisy, she is only sharing her experiences. I'm sure Jeremy is very damaged and completely institutionalised. Thinking about it, I suspect that he wouldn't think twice about using someone in order to help with his release. In the same position, we may all learn to do the same. I do have sympathy for Daisy though, she only tried to help. I would just add that she really shouldn't have indicated that she was wealthy - but I suspect she knows that now.
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Re: Daisy
« Reply #70 on: January 11, 2014, 01:06:PM »
Morning Raven

just thinking if Jeremy is released in the near future what would be your plans for the book.

Hi Susan, if Jeremy is released in the near future the book would only change slightly to include his newly free status and the thoughts and feelings he has regarding that. Otherwise, it would still be a character study on what I'm sure we can all agree is a truly fascinating man who has endured an unimaginable journey.

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« Reply #71 on: January 11, 2014, 01:11:PM »
If Daisy had made herself clearer from the start,,by explaining that she was more or less trying to be a " substitute family member " to Jeremy,,then perhaps we'd have understood more,,but as the post was written,it just sounded like another " scorned woman ".
Yes,,I can understand Jeremys' frustration,especially as feet have dragged from day one and it has been a case of one step forward and two back. I think most of us would feel the same,if not worse. To say that he'll now be reaching the end of his tether would be an understatement,and he'll have reached a stage where he wants things doing right now,or forget it. Impatience can be something that comes with age,as well as the onset of dementia,which we hope doesn't happen for a long time yet,,but tolerance levels drop too as you get older. They have regarding myself.
I'm sure Jeremy hasn't meant to be unkind to this person,,but all the same,I'd like to know what really happened instead of reading someone ranting about someone else,when that someone else can't defend themselves. 

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« Reply #72 on: January 11, 2014, 01:13:PM »
Hello Raven

See your point.  Good Luck. :)

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« Reply #73 on: January 11, 2014, 01:15:PM »
I was aware of Daisy wanting to post this.  Though I disagree with what she has done, I must add, in her defence, she meant no malice whatsoever.

Daisy is a dear lady....'old school', is the best way to describe her.  She has an incredibly close family, including a most loving and supportive husband.  The entire family where supportive of Daisy's desire to support a man with no family, who she felt was alone and in need of some genuine moral support, with no ties or complications.  Her friendship with Jeremy was purely that.  Unconditional.

She may have some wealth behind her and maybe Jeremy thought that Daisy's friendship may be of some serious use at a later date.  Daisy was aware of this, however, she did not want to believe she was there solely for the money.  She refused to think ill of Jeremy, even though her family had pointed out  how he mentioned 'her' money to both her and the Campaign team on a few occasions.

What happened on 'that' particular visit was shocking to both Daisy and her husband....who was also with her.  She was, as one can imagine, deeply hurt by this.  Both she and her husband were upset by his actions that morning that a planned afternoon visit was cancelled by them.

Friendship, loyalty and family are at the core of the whole of Daisy's nearest and dearest.  I suppose all she wanted to do was help a vulnerable young man who found himself fighting for his life....and justice.
In that, she has committed no crime, her actions and support were genuine.

The way some of you have attacked Daisy and her postings, is without justification and wholly unnecessary.
Daisy is old enough almost to be his mother.....you have spitefully attacked a harmless lady who meant no harm, other than to warn others who may be in the same position as she was, to be wary of him.
I have known Jeremy for over 20 years.  Both his mental and emotional health have deteriorated (which is without judgement but a fact, due to his imprisonment and age).

Jeremy remains possibly one of the strongest men I have ever had the fortune to meet and I wish him no harm, ever.  Not everybody who has had a relationship with Jeremy has spoken about it either. 

Sadly, I do agree with Daisy on one point.  Like her I believe he is innocent, always have....however, Jeremy has become a political prisoner upon which his release would bring the whole judicial system to its knees.  It's not that he won't be released so much as he can't be released....and that is what Daisy meant also.

Having been through two Appeals with Jeremy, having had meetings with Euan Smith, having been fobbed off with him along with Jeremy whilst he was courted to the CCRC, as Commissioner leaves many unanswered questions.

Ask the right question and you may get the right answer.

Wishing you all a Happy New Year.   :)
Thanks for straightening us out about daisy and Jeremy Auntie. I respect your comments on this and know that you have known him for years. I'm sorry for misjudging Daisy.

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« Reply #74 on: January 11, 2014, 01:16:PM »
Thank you, Susan :) Although as I still haven't heard from him, I'm currently unsure whether Jeremy has been too busy to reply or is merely ignoring me hoping I'll go away  ;D