Capt. Jeffrey Mcdonald

[Patti]

Having read Vic post yesterday I was intrigued by the case, so much so that I stopped up half the night and watched the film Fatal Vision starring Karl Maldon.

Here is the film if anyone is interested, but it is 3 hours long....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuyTIi30LXI

[Steve_uk]

Having read Vic post yesterday I was intrigued by the case, so much so that I stopped up half the night and watched the film Fatal Vision starring Karl Maldon.

Here is the film if anyone is interested, but it is 3 hours long....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuyTIi30LXI

Hi Patti it's an interesting case with some parallels to Jeremy Bamber as has been alluded to on Vic's thread. Couldn't these threads be merged?

[nugnug]

i watched a film about this case years ago.

[Lugg]

Having read Vic post yesterday I was intrigued by the case, so much so that I stopped up half the night and watched the film Fatal Vision starring Karl Maldon.

Here is the film if anyone is interested, but it is 3 hours long....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuyTIi30LXI

Karl Malden

[nugnug]

its very similar to jeremy bamber there has been considerably dispute as to weather MacDonald did it or not.

and also the crime scene was totally mishandled.

[Patti]

Hi Patti it's an interesting case with some parallels to Jeremy Bamber as has been alluded to on Vic's thread. Couldn't these threads be merged?

Hi Steve

We could, if everyone was in favour of it.  The reason I placed it here was because the case is a fascinating one in its own rights. It's a case did he or didn't he.

Apparently he had approximately 14 wounds himself 13 of them superficial.  The 14th one being very deep just missing his lung. 

It was said at trial that he being a surgeon had caused these wounds himself and knew that the so called life threatening wound would not kill him because he knew exactly where to place the blade into his abdomen without being life threatening. 

To be fair when I watched the film the seed of it being similar to Jeremy's case had already been planted in my mind.   If I had watched it without Vic saying it had similarlarities then I am certain I would not have thought it similar at all. 

[Patti]

Karl Malden

Hahahahaha I knew I had spelled it wrong...I'm a daft apeth. 

[Patti]

its very similar to jeremy bamber there has been considerably dispute as to weather MacDonald did it or not.

and also the crime scene was totally mishandled.

Hi nugs...it was the plant pot that caused the army to be suspicious. The table in the living room was upturned, but the plant pot on it had been placed in its correct position, upright! They called it his big mistake....but was it?

In his favour, the police could find no motive for McDonald killing his family. They said he did it a psychotic rage, yet he had never shown these tendencies before or after the murders. 

[susan]

Morning Patti

I have been reading the case of Jeffrey McDonald and yet cannot seen anything  similar to the Jeremy Bamber case other than both murders were carried out by somebody in a frenzied attack neither appeared to be cool calculating crimes.  Is McDonald guilty I am not sure.

[Patti]

Morning Patti

I have been reading the case of Jeffrey McDonald and yet cannot seen anything  similar to the Jeremy Bamber case other than both murders were carried out by somebody in a frenzied attack neither appeared to be cool calculating crimes.  Is McDonald guilty I am not sure.

Morning Susie

I'm not sure if he is guilty or not! If I was to go the evidence of where the blood was in the house, then I would say he was guilty. But, that evidence was only produced for a TV movie, if it is factual then I believe he could have done it...if that makes sense..

[susan]

Hi Patti not seen the movie could not sit still for three hours but it does seem strange after such a frenzied attack on his wife and children how he survived as was said he knew where to inflict the wounds but what was his motive.

[Patti]

Hi Patti not seen the movie could not sit still for three hours but it does seem strange after such a frenzied attack on his wife and children how he survived as was said he knew where to inflict the wounds but what was his motive.

I can't see that there was a motive.  His wife had sent a letter to her mother a couple of weeks prior to the murders saying that this was the happiest time in her marriage.

Sadly she was pregnant at the time of the murders and McDonald claimed that 4 hippy type characters had entered his home and killed his family and may have thought he was dead, then left.  The case resembled the Sharon Tate murder......

There was a girl that told the police that she was in the house at the time the killings took place and that they were all high on drugs. But 10 years later on when McDonald faced trial, she stated she was not there...and refused to be a witness, because she could not tell the jury about something that she could not recall because she wasn't there.....

[nugnug]

there was no motive and as far as i casn see absolutely no evidence.

ether forensic or circumstancel

[Steve_uk]

This is a shorter version and does raise doubts I had long since considered a cut and dried case.http://youtu.be/Zlt4p2hGXzE

[tyler]

He passed two lie detector tests and Helena Stoekley failed two of them.