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Offline Roch

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5205 on: June 30, 2020, 12:51:PM »
What are you going to say when the German authorities confirm they found photos/videos of Madeline post abduction on Christian Bruckners buried USB sticks?

Well if he's a scapegoat - planted.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5206 on: June 30, 2020, 12:58:PM »
Well if he's a scapegoat - planted.

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CGI?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5207 on: June 30, 2020, 01:23:PM »
😂

CGI?

I don't believe the dogs gave false alerts. I don't believe the Tapas 9 / Tapas 7 gave totally honest accounts.  I don't see why a Labour prime minister would show such disrespect to the Portuguese authorities and send a government spin doctor to represent the couple. I don't see why a serious police investigation in to the disappearance would not have all avenues available for investigation and persue only those avenues linked to a possible abduction. Literally not allowed to investigate the original line of enquiry any further.  That's disgraceful.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5208 on: June 30, 2020, 01:34:PM »
😂

CGI?

Were the incorrect van images also CGI?

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5209 on: June 30, 2020, 07:19:PM »
The question is: why keep the memory sticks and child abuse images, unless he is completely round the twist and quite impervious to arrest?  He may have killed the child inside the apartment and removed the lifeless body that evening, hence the cadaver odour detected by the sniffer dogs.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5210 on: June 30, 2020, 07:28:PM »
The question is: why keep the memory sticks and child abuse images, unless he is completely round the twist and quite impervious to arrest?  He may have killed the child inside the apartment and removed the lifeless body that evening, hence the cadaver odour detected by the sniffer dogs.

The memory sticks were buried on a remote abandoned factory site that he owned.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5211 on: June 30, 2020, 07:31:PM »
The memory sticks were buried on a remote abandoned factory site that he owned.
But why not throw them in the trash, unless they were some kind of trophy? Or maybe his addiction was so strong he thought of retrieving them at a later date.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5212 on: June 30, 2020, 07:37:PM »
But why not throw them in the trash, unless they were some kind of trophy? Or maybe his addiction was so strong he thought of retrieving them at a later date.

People don’t take pictures or videos to throw away.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5213 on: July 01, 2020, 11:24:AM »
As long ago as the beginning of June 2010, I discovered a shallow grave in the rear garden of a derelict building (5 Pescadores de) situated across the street from the village church (St Vincent's) in Praia da Luz, Portugal, where I believe the remains of Madeliene McCann, or items of clothing worn by her, at the time she seemingly disappeared, are buried. I discovered this derelict building during a holiday I took with my wife. We stayed at the Ocean Club, in block 6, apartment 6A (which was effectively the first block on the opposite side of the road, next to where the McCanns stayed (block 5, apartment 5A) in May 2007). I understand that at the time when Madeliene went missing, or shortly afterwards, that the PJ used apartment 6A in block 6, (the same one allocated to us in June 2010) as a control centre, which to my mind deepened my curiosity and interest in the case. The internal layout of the McCann apartment (5A), block 5, was identical to that of our apartment (6A), block 6, other than theirs was ground floor, and ours was upper floor! Another difference, was that although we had a sliding patio door on the poolside of the building, there wasn't a set of concrete steps leading down to the road, with accompanying gates (at roadside, and at patio level). The McCanns also had a poolside garden, whereas we didn't. Lastly, the external lockable door on the car park side of the buildings in the McCanns apartment led directly onto to a footpath with a wall which served to separate the apartment block (5) and its roadside car park. In our case, upon leaving the lockable door on the car park side of block 6, you would have to walk along a landing to a stairway and descend these in order to get to ground floor level.

Everything else, including windows, window locks, external window shutters, internal doors, doors handles, doors and type of locking mechanism on either side of the apartment block doors, were identical
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5214 on: July 01, 2020, 12:02:PM »

Everything else, including windows, window locks, external window shutters, internal doors, doors handles, doors and type of locking mechanism on either side of the apartment block doors, were identical

It didn't take me long to work out, that you could not exit through the sliding patio door on the poolside of the building, and then lock it from outside. This is because the mechanism for opening the sliding patio door is located inside the living room. As was / is the mechanism for raising and lowering the steel patio door. Once you exit the sliding patio door from the living room and venture out onto the patio, there is no way you can raise or lower the steel patio door shutter. Furthermore, you can't lock the sliding patio door once your out onto the patio, because the locking mechanism to enable you to lock the patio door is fitted on the living room side of the door!

Similarly, it is impossible to lower the steel patio door shutter fully down, and to leave the patio door unlocked because (a)  you can only lower or raise it by operating a pulley mechanism located on the living room side, of both the patio door, and the steel shutter!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5215 on: July 01, 2020, 12:08:PM »

Similarly, it is impossible to lower the steel patio door shutter fully down, and to leave the patio door unlocked because (a)  you can only lower or raise it by operating a pulley mechanism located on the living room side, of both the patio door, and the steel shutter!

These explanations are problematic to the McCann parents who maintain that they left the sliding patio door unlocked, unless the metal patio door shutter was left raised up in the unlocked settings..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5216 on: July 01, 2020, 05:40:PM »
These explanations are problematic to the McCann parents who maintain that they left the sliding patio door unlocked, unless the metal patio door shutter was left raised up in the unlocked settings..

When Mathew Oldfield went and did his two checks at the McCanns apartment at around 9.00pm, and 9.30pm on the evening of 3rd May 2007, at one time or another, he gave conflicting accounts concerning the nature of the checks which he says he made. For example, at the time he did the 9pm check of the McCann apartment by claiming that he had gone to the outside of the children's bedroom window and listened with his ear pressed against the outside" glass, or the metal security shutter to see whether or not  there was any sounds coming from within the bedroom. After being satisfied that all was well within, Mathew Oldfield returned to the tapas bar and reported to the McCann parents that 'all was well'  back at their apartment (5A), because he had just checked there...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5217 on: July 01, 2020, 09:27:PM »
According to the Netflix documentary, the cadaver results are 100% false positive.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5218 on: July 02, 2020, 08:32:AM »
After being satisfied that all was well within, Mathew Oldfield returned to the tapas bar and reported to the McCann parents that 'all was well'  back at their apartment (5A), because he had just checked there...

Mathew's return to the tapas bar and him telling one or both McCann parents that 'all was well' back inside their apartment (5A) sparked off a remarkable sequence of events, involving, Gerald McCann (9.05pm), Jane Tanner and her sighting of (Tannerman) the suspect carrying a child in his arms travelling away from the apartment blocks 4 and 5, at a road junction between blocks 5 and 6 (9.10pm), Jez Wilkins(9.10pm), the overhearing of raised voices at tapas bar table between a man and a woman discussing the disapperence of a child from one of the Ocean club apartments (9.15pm), the return of Gerald McCann to the tapas bar claiming all his children were safe, sound, and sleeping in their cots and bed, at 5A (9.15 - 9.20pm), Russell O'brien (9.20 - 9.30pm), with Mathew Oldfield (9.20 - 9.30pm), on the pretense that they would do another check of the McCann parents apartment. Restaurant tables used by the so called tapas 7 and the McCann parents, said to have all been vacated and empty (9.30pm), The return of Mathew Oldfield to the tapas bar alone, and he informing everyone, that Russell O'brien was staying back at the apartment shared with Jane Tanner and child, because their child was unwell (9.30 - 9.40pm Restaurant tables used by the so called tapas 7 and the McCann parents, said to have all been vacated and empty (with the exception of an elderly member of the group who was looking after the possessions of other members of the group who had for one reason or another had left the tapas bar some 15 minutes earlier (9.45pm) and Kate McCann who claims to have discovered that Madeliene had been taken and was missing from her bed in apartment 5A. The childrens bedroom curtains blowing open, the window itself slid open, and the metal security window shutter of the same window, also raised(10.00pm), the abandonment of her other two little children, left at the mercy of any would be abductor(s) whilst she ran back to the restaurant to break the news that 'Madeliene is gone' and 'they have taken her', and rather than run out through the now open patio door onto the patio and bellow out, or scream to other members of the group at the tapas bar that Madeliene was missing from her bed and that 'They'  (whoever they were, or are) had been taken, etc, etc, and etc...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5219 on: July 02, 2020, 09:15:AM »
'Mathew's return to the tapas bar and him telling one or both McCann parents that 'all was well' back inside their apartment (5A) sparked off a remarkable sequence of events -
 the abandonment of her other two little children, left at the mercy of any would be abductor(s) whilst she ran back to the restaurant to break the news that 'Madeliene is gone' and 'they have taken her',  rather than run out through the now open patio door onto the patio and bellow out, or scream to other members of the group at the tapas bar that Madeliene was missing from her bed and that 'They'  (whoever they were, or are) had been taken, etc, etc, and etc...

To my mind, too many people leaving the tapas bar and its restaurant within minutes or moments of a similar check made by others of their own, and the McCann apartment (5A), yet neither of the McCann parents ever checked the safety of other group members children in their own apartments (Mathew Oldfield /Russell O'brien)..




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