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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4170 on: May 15, 2019, 03:58:PM »
I think Madeleine was inside the pink painted room at some point next to what appeared to be a single bed mattress placed on the room floor, with sufficient space along side one edge of the said mattress and the room wall - Madeleines body was positioned in this gap at some stage...

The fact that a navy blue nylon kaghool, and a pair of blue jeans were found concealed beneath debris in a nearby room, along with a checked shirt, May prove to be of some significance - an eye witness saw a man wearing a dark coloured kaghool and blue jeans standing on the opposite pavement of the street outside the McCann apartment. He appeared to be staring across the street in the general direction of the McCanns apartment a few hours before Madeleine's disappearance was alerted...
Do the discarded items of clothing belong to a member of the tapas nine group? Or Serge Malinka?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4171 on: May 15, 2019, 04:46:PM »
Malinka's car was burnt out within about a quarter of a mile from the derelict building and in particular, the recently dug shallow grave in a the rear garden...

The word 'Falla' was painted on the pavement next to Malinka's burnt out vehicle, which was parked up in the street close to where the Smith family saw someone thought by them to have been Gerry McCann carrying the body of a little girl todler in his arms heading in the general direction of the beach, the village church and the rear garden of the derelict building (behind 'The Bull's public house) ..

It should also be noted that the fellow who was seen to be carrying the toddler, turned right upon approaching the cross roads adjacent to the premises of 'LUZDOC' rather the be confronted by one of the Smith children who was approaching the aforementioned cross roads at the top of some concrete steps. But none claims to have seen the man carrying the toddler, physical!!y to  proceed down those steps - everyone assumes that he did...

Whoever the man was is known to have turned right at the crossroads carrying the folder in his arms!

Within 50 yards of that junction, and travelling in the direction which 'Smithman' exited, was the location where Malinka's motor vehicle eventually got burnt out..

The burnt out car, was nowhere near the apartment where Malinka resided along with his mother...

The position of the burnt out Malinlka vehicle was a good quarter of a mile away from where Malinka was living at the time of Madeleine's disappearance, which suggests that Malinka may have had a friend who lived close to the eventual location of where his vehicle got burnt out!

I am convinced that Gerry McCann was the Smithman, and that he may have handed over Madeleine's body to Serge Malinka shortly after he was sighted by the Smith family! Additionally, I believe that Madeleines body did not get taken to the derelict building and it's rear garden immediately, but that Malinka arranged for Madeleine's body to be retained in the mystery apartment which Scotland Yard know featured in Madeleine McCanns disappearance. It is also believed that Madeleine's remains were temporarily concealed in a freezer belonging to the owners / tenant's of the said apartment..

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4172 on: May 15, 2019, 05:01:PM »
One thing which seems so obvious to me, is that the local criminals who resided in and around the general location where Malinka's car got burnt out, and in the vicinity of the sighting of Smithman, knew what really happened to Madeleine McCann..

She was already dead by the time Madeleine fell into the clutches of Malinka ..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4173 on: May 15, 2019, 05:05:PM »
One thing which seems so obvious to me, is that the local criminals who resided in and around the general location where Malinka's car got burnt out, and in the vicinity of the sighting of Smithman, knew what really happened to Madeleine McCann..

She was already dead by the time Madeleine fell into the clutches of Malinka ..

Telephone records which proved that Gerry McCann and another member of the tapas nine group member were deliberately erased from the memory of their personal mobile phones, which related to contact between McCann and another group member, Robert Murat and Serge Malinka which took place at around 9.30pm, on the evening of Madeleine's disappearance..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4174 on: May 16, 2019, 11:52:PM »
Telephone records which proved that Gerry McCann and another member of the tapas nine group member were deliberately erased from the memory of their personal mobile phones, which related to contact between McCann and another group member, Robert Murat and Serge Malinka which took place at around 9.30pm, on the evening of Madeleine's disappearance..
How did this relate to Gerry McCann? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1551981/Mobile-phone-mystery-in-Madeleine-hunt.html
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4175 on: May 20, 2019, 08:51:PM »
How did this relate to Gerry McCann? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1551981/Mobile-phone-mystery-in-Madeleine-hunt.html
this article refers to a purported telephone call between Malinka and Robert Murat, I am talking about the erased phone call records from Gerry McCanns mobile phone from 9.30pm, onwards between them. Furthermore, Robert Murat was recognised near the Baptiste supermarket by other members of the tapas 9 group at around 10pm that same Eve IMG - a claim Murat denied at first by stating he was with a girlfriend, but later changing his story that he had been inside his mother's villa all night with her. Well, I think at about 9pm that evening Murat's mother left her villa to go shopping at the Baptiste supermarket, so with that in mind, Robert Murat could not ha e been with his mother throughout the entire evening. It would probably taken Mrs Murat half an hour or so to walk from her villa to the supermarket, to then do her shopping and walk back home to her own villa. A period of time which gave an opportunity for Robert Murat to have left his mother's villa and visited the general area where the McCanns apartment was situated. From there, he could easily have been present in the vicinity of the McCann apartment and or the Baptiste supermarket by around 10pm, in order for at least four members of the tapas 9 group to place him there at around that time. Why would the 4 group members all tell a deliberate lie about whether or not they had seen Robert Murat where they said they had seen him?

It is somewhat coincidental that there is an hour long period of say between 9 and 10pm on that evening where the presented facts from various parties to the matter, do not appear to be accurately telling the truth about who was where, who did what, and the time which Madeleine was found to be missing, ranging from as early as 9pm when Mathew Oldfield did a check of the McCann apartment (5a) at just after 9pm, that evening, and discovering that Madeleine was not in her bed in the children's bedroom, nor was she present in the parents bedroom. A fact which he relayed to Gerry McCann upon his return to the tapas restaurant at around 9.05pm. of course, by this time, Gerry McCann was concerned about what Mathew Oldfield had just told him, that Madeleine was missing from the family apartment. By 9.15pm that same evening, people who were sat eating dinner and drinking alcoholic drinks knew that the McCann child (Madeleine) had gone missing from the apartment - that's two alerts, one timed at around 9pm by Mathew Oldfield that Madeleine was missing, and within the next 15 minutes it appears that several people who were sat at restaurant tables were openly and excitedly talking about Madeleine having gone missing. OK, so we have Mathew Oldfield alerting the McCann parents, or to at least one parent (Gerry McCann, that before Gerry McCann left the tapas bar restaurant at 9.05pm, that it was k own by himself, and Mathe)w Oldfield that Madeleine was no longer visible or present anywhere at all inside the McCann holiday apartment. So, it's odds on that the reason why Gerry McCann rushed off to do a check of his own of the key apartment, that he rushed back to the apartment to satisfy himself that Mathew Oldfield had made a fatal mistake in claiming that Madeleine had vanished by that stage. This is born out by the claim made by Gerry McCann himself that he physically saw Madeleine laying on her bed, and realised how beautiful she was at that time. So mcCann leaves the children sleeping in 5a and returns back to the tapas bar restaurant. It is clear that by the time Gerry McCann returned to the tapas bar, that Kate had not doesn't to her feet at 9.30pm intent on doing her 9.30pm check, when Gerry was still absent from the tapas bar, and that neither Mathew Oldfield or Russell O'Brien could have risen to do a check on their own children, and volunteering  to do the check on the McCann apartment , when until after Gerry McCann returned at the tapas bar having seemingly verified that Madeleine and the twoMcCann siblings were all well and safely tucked in bed..

So by that stage there were clearly two events washers one party or another, or one person or another had already been alerted to the fact that Madeleine was known to be missing at 9pm, and secondly that guests in the tapas bar were in fact acknowledging that one of the McCann children had gone missing out of the family apartment  by 9.15pm. and that this was followed after the return of Gerry McCann to the tapas bar that Madeleine wasn't missing after all...

And then, as if by magic, by around 9.30om that same evening Mathew Oldfield, Russell O'Brien and Kate McCann all got to their feet at one and the same time, all intent on doing a check on the children in the apartments. In particular, a further check on apartment 5a so soon after Gerry McCann had only just got back from checking that apartment. So, Oldfield and O'Brien convince Kate McCann to go and sit back down at the restaurant table on the understanding that they would do the scheduled check-in the McCann parents behalf. Ion any event, what transpires is that Mathew Oldfield does a check of apartment 5a and he satisfies himself that Madeleine must be a sleep either on her bed, or wrapped up beneath a blanket. So he returns to the tapas bar restaurant to apparently break the news to both Gerry and Kate McCann that there was no problems with the three siblings back at their apartment, effectively altering the course of the investigation, because at that stage there had been four events worthy of consideration in connection with whether or not Madeleine had been missing, since at 9pm Mathew Oldfield had alerted the others to the fact that Madeleine had not been present in the McCann apartment at that stage. This triggered off a reaction in Gerry McCanns mindset causing him to race back to the fact it apartment to see for himself whether or not Madeleine was missing, or not. However in the I version period between the pm Oldfield alert, and after Gerry McCanns reaction which included some sort of a delay in him returning back to the tapas bar, it seems that news about Madeleine having gone missing from the McCanns apartment had started to circulate amongst the other guests, certainly by 9.15pm. This was followed by the subsequently alleged return of Gerry McCann back to the restaurant bar bearing the great news that Madeleine wasn't missing, and had not in fact been missing at all beforehand..

Then Mathew did his 9.30pom check of the McCann apartment, and by that stage be was satisfied that Madeleine must have been sleeping in her bed...

We then are led to believe that half an hour or so later at around 19pm, that Kate McCann rose to her feet to take her turn at checking in the kids and their apartment.

Well, first of all, I do not believe for one moment
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4176 on: May 21, 2019, 07:23:AM »
I do not accept or believe that Gerry McCann ever returned to the tapas bar restaurant after 9.15am to allegedly confirm that Madeleine was safely tucked up in her bed. He did not return from his let's call it his 9.05pm check until after 10.30pm. now this becomes extremely important and critical in helping us to decide if, as Gerry McCanns narrative goes, we accept that during McCanns 9.05pm check, Madeleine was ever present inside apartment 5a, let alone that she might have still been alive by that stage..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4177 on: May 21, 2019, 07:30:AM »
I do not accept or believe that Gerry McCann ever returned to the tapas bar restaurant after 9.15am to allegedly confirm that Madeleine was safely tucked up in her bed. He did not return from his let's call it his 9.05pm check until after 10.30pm. now this becomes extremely important and critical in helping us to decide if, as Gerry McCanns narrative goes, we accept that during McCanns 9.05pm check, Madeleine was ever present inside apartment 5a, let alone that she might have still been alive by that stage..

In fact, by the time McCann did his so called 9.05pm check of his children and the family apartment, Madeleine was almost certainly already dead and her body had been concealed somewhere outside the apartment, either amounst the shrubbery, trees and plants of the poolside garden of the McCann apartment, or as the case may be, her body had been transferred to some other premises whilst arrangements were being made to dispose of Madeleine's body, prior to any alert being raised to the effect that Madeleine had in fact only just been reported to be missing..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4178 on: May 21, 2019, 09:19:AM »
Now..

If McCann did not return to the tapas bar restaurant after he did his 9.05pm check of his children and the claim that he had done, or did is part of an elaborate plott to keep the idea that Madeleine had still been alive until the time of Gerry McCans 9.05pm apartment check, how is it possible for him to have supposedly returned to the tapas bar restuarant to declare that Madeleine was not missing, because he had just returned from the apartment and Madeleine was sleeping soundly in / on her bed in the same bedroom as the McCanns other two siblings?

Basically what I am suggesting is that if Gerry McCann did not return at all to the tapas bar restaurant after his 9.05pm check of the kids and the family apartment, he could not have informed any of the others who were still sat at the restaurant tables to the effect that Madeleine had been found, and was in fact sleeping soundly in or on to)p of her bed...

At this juncturedfield and McCann d then what we are left with an alert by Mathew Oldfield that from as early as 9pm that particular evening Madeleine was not present anywhere at all inside apartment 5a, followed by (once Gerry McCann had raced off to do his own checking at around 9.05pm) other people talking excitedly about the disappearance of one on the McCann parents siblings, already by 9.15pm...

This then moves us onto the claim that at around 9.30pm three members of the so called tapas 9 group all arose from their seats, intent upon going to do a check on their own children inside their own apartments ( Russell O'Brien, Mathew Oldfield and Kate McCann) culminating in Oldfield' and O'Brien managing to persuade Kate that she should sit back down and that they would do her check on her behalf...

Well, let's investigate the implications of this so called 9.30pm check of the O'Brien, Oldfield and McCann parents..

Firstly, Gerry McCann had not returned back to the tapas restaurant bar after he had embarked on his 9.05pm security check. Secondly, once Gerry McCann had reacted to the news given to him by Mathew Oldfield, other holiday guests had suddenly picked up on the fact / suggestion that one of the McCann siblings had gone missing from the family apartment, and this was the gist of conversation at and by around 9.15pm of other members of the so-called McCann entourage, or other guests...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4179 on: May 21, 2019, 09:25:AM »

Firstly, Gerry McCann had not returned back to the tapas restaurant bar after he had embarked on his 9.05pm security check. Secondly, once Gerry McCann had reacted to the news given to him by Mathew Oldfield, other holiday guests had suddenly picked up on the fact / suggestion that one of the McCann siblings had gone missing from the family apartment, and this was the gist of conversation at and by around 9.15pm of other members of the so-called McCann entourage, or other guests...

Intact, by the time Gerry McCann set off from the tapas restaurant bar to do his 9.05pm check of his kids and the family apartment (5a), Madeleine McCann had already been long since dead...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4180 on: May 21, 2019, 09:30:AM »
Intact, by the time Gerry McCann set off from the tapas restaurant bar to do his 9.05pm check of his kids and the family apartment (5a), Madeleine McCann had already been long since dead...

Furthermore, her body had long since already been removed from apartment 5a and taken to a secure location prior to the occasion once the police and the general public had been alerted to the alleged circumstances and  disappearance of Madeleine Beth McCann from apartment 5a on that particular evening (3rd of May, 2007)...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #4181 on: Yesterday at 04:55 PM »
I do not accept or believe that Gerry McCann ever returned to the tapas bar restaurant after 9.15am to allegedly confirm that Madeleine was safely tucked up in her bed. He did not return from his let's call it his 9.05pm check until after 10.30pm. now this becomes extremely important and critical in helping us to decide if, as Gerry McCanns narrative goes, we accept that during McCanns 9.05pm check, Madeleine was ever present inside apartment 5a, let alone that she might have still been alive by that stage..
He is taking a risk that nobody would see him with Madeleine's body. Was she small enough to be stuffed into a holdall bag? Why has the man seen holding a child by Jane Tanner at 9:15pm and an Irish holidaymaker 45 minutes later been ruled out by the Metropolitan Police as a suspect when he never came forward and has never been traced? https://www.heart.co.uk/news/madeleine-mccann-disappearance-timeline/