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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3225 on: August 09, 2018, 11:03:PM »
Having just checked her witness statement, she actually says that the children were placed in 'three sub-groups'...
The quote I have is "the physical space where the children's groups are located is contiguous". http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CHARLOTTE-PENNINGTON.htm

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3226 on: August 09, 2018, 11:21:PM »
Let's circle around a 3D presentation (Google) of the prime location at the heart of this mystery...

McCann Apartment 5A..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3227 on: August 09, 2018, 11:28:PM »
Here is a 3D presentation (Google) of the shallow grave in the hollow in the rear garden of the derelict building across the street from St Vincent's Church (Luz):-
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3228 on: August 11, 2018, 02:56:AM »
This is the route taken by the Carpenters upon leaving their apartment FP02, each morning when they took their child to the Crech each afternoon when they deposited their child their and collected them at lunch time, and in time for high tea, and much later when they took their two children there during the evening nanny service whilst they socialised..

Was 'Tannerman', Stephen Carpenter who had got to collect one of his children from the 3rd Creche?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3229 on: August 11, 2018, 05:27:PM »
I believe that Madeleine McCann died, and that her remains were buried in a shallow grave in a hollow in the rear garden of the derelict building situated across the street from St Vincent's church! I believe this to be true and as far as I know no-one has been to try and exhume her body! Everything points to that location being where Madeleine's remains were disposed of - the 'Ghost of MADDIE' photograph that I took inside the derelict building in 2010, provided a supernatural clue, and there are further manifestations in the following images which resonate with Madeleine McCanns vibration, as if what can be seen is akin to a supernatural calling card - you can see her, in the imagery, which cannot be put down to chance or a coincidence...

Stare into the Circle and think of the name 'Madeleine McCann' and her image will be revealed to you!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3230 on: August 11, 2018, 05:44:PM »
What are the chances of a photograph taken by me in 2010 which I refer to as the 'Ghost of Maddie' photograph, and a Google earth image purporting to show Madeleine McCanns face right next to the hollow at the rear of the garden where someone has dug a shallow grave?

She is there, buried in the grounds of this derelict building!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3231 on: August 11, 2018, 05:54:PM »
Here, look - 'The Grim Reaper' right above the shallow grave..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3232 on: August 11, 2018, 06:06:PM »
Rather somewhat astonishingly, it appears that the landscape around the shallow grave has a series of letters formed in the rushes, as though the reeds themselves are drawing attention to this particular plot, a manifestation of letters, words,  in a language I do not profess to know! This effect is spectacular, the land is calling to us, 'come here, come here', and 'this is the place's...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3233 on: August 11, 2018, 06:43:PM »
I didn't realize the Murat villa was so close, though the photograph might be deceptive. I was wondering if the church door was locked in the evening, as many of them now are, sadly.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3234 on: August 11, 2018, 09:29:PM »
I didn't realize the Murat villa was so close, though the photograph might be deceptive. I was wondering if the church door was locked in the evening, as many of them now are, sadly.

The McCanns had the key to the church door, and took refuge most nights soon after Madeleine was reported to have been taken - Portuguese police searched the catecomb beneath the church because they thought they parents had concealed Madeleine's remains there

Murat Villa Close to McCann Apartment..
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3235 on: August 11, 2018, 09:42:PM »
Distance from Church door to hollow / shallow grave in rear garden of derelict building
The Church in which the McCann parents took refuge overnight shortly after Madeleine was reported taken -  a stone's throw away from the shallow grave in a hollow at the rear garden of derelict building yards away!

The haven't searched the shallow grave in the hollow yet, or the rear garden of the derelict building
Simply saying the police and everybody else searched everywhere high and low, is simply not good enough!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3236 on: August 11, 2018, 10:05:PM »
How do you explain the cadaver odour in the wardrobe? Let's say one of the McCanns discovers Maddie had a fatal accident earlier in the evening but couldn't take her out in the light, so stuffed her body in the wardrobe, hoping that whoever from the Tapas 7 checked later wouldn't notice her missing. Then under cover of darkness Gerry carries her down to the church. Alternatively Robert Murat watches the apartment, rushes in quickly, smothers Madeleine, dumps her body at his mother's villa then rushes back to join the search to create an alibi for himself.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3237 on: August 12, 2018, 11:00:AM »
How do you explain the cadaver odour in the wardrobe? Let's say one of the McCanns discovers Maddie had a fatal accident earlier in the evening but couldn't take her out in the light, so stuffed her body in the wardrobe, hoping that whoever from the Tapas 7 checked later wouldn't notice her missing. Then under cover of darkness Gerry carries her down to the church. Alternatively Robert Murat watches the apartment, rushes in quickly, smothers Madeleine, dumps her body at his mother's villa then rushes back to join the search to create an alibi for himself.






Steve prior to the holiday Kate had attended 5/6 deaths so the smell, no matter whether a garment is washed or dry-cleaned will retain the cadaver scent to a trained or even untrained animal.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3238 on: August 12, 2018, 12:37:PM »





Steve prior to the holiday Kate had attended 5/6 deaths so the smell, no matter whether a garment is washed or dry-cleaned will retain the cadaver scent to a trained or even untrained animal.

If this was the case Lookout, then I would have expected the carver dog to react to all the rooms in the apartment and all the furniture in each room where Kate McCann sat or stood or laid down, and everything that she touched, since she would have needed to use both hands to dress and undress, and pick things up, put things down, or simply touch anything and everything that her contaminated hands came into contact with, cooking and eating utensils, pots and pans, the raised steel shutter at the kids bedroom window which had her fingerprints on it, boxes and tinned groceries she handled, there would also have been traces of cadaver scent I the bathroom of the apartment that she used, and on light switches and door knobs she switched on or opened and closed - an apparent total of absence or any reaction by the cadaver dog to all these other avenues of possible contamination suggests that the noted presence of the cadaver odour in the key locations that they were detected in, had nothing to do with Kate's duties back home where she might have come into contact with one or more deceased persons! For example, I presume that she dressed and undressed the other two children of theirs each morning and each evening and yet the cadaver dog did not give a positive reaction with regard to such items. Also, surely there would also have been this accidental cadaver odour found on Kate's tennis racket and her running gear, including her running footwear, but alas none found or detected!

I am more interested in Gerry McCanns missing sports holdall that he took on holiday with him, and what happened to it, and where it is?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #3239 on: August 12, 2018, 12:48:PM »
If this was the case Lookout, then I would have expected the carver dog to react to all the rooms in the apartment and all the furniture in each room where Kate McCann sat or stood or laid down, and everything that she touched, since she would have needed to use both hands to dress and undress, and pick things up, put things down, or simply touch anything and everything that her contaminated hands came into contact with, cooking and eating utensils, pots and pans, the raised steel shutter at the kids bedroom window which had her fingerprints on it, boxes and tinned groceries she handled, there would also have been traces of cadaver scent I the bathroom of the apartment that she used, and on light switches and door knobs she switched on or opened and closed - an apparent total of absence or any reaction by the cadaver dog to all these other avenues of possible contamination suggests that the noted presence of the cadaver odour in the key locations that they were detected in, had nothing to do with Kate's duties back home where she might have come into contact with one or more deceased persons! For example, I presume that she dressed and undressed the other two children of theirs each morning and each evening and yet the cadaver dog did not give a positive reaction with regard to such items. Also, surely there would also have been this accidental cadaver odour found on Kate's tennis racket and her running gear, including her running footwear, but alas none found or detected!

I am more interested in Gerry McCanns missing sports holdall that he took on holiday with him, and what happened to it, and where it is?

Also, the historical cadaver odour that you refer to Lookout would surely have been transferred further afield at the holiday complex, such as in the papas bar and restaurant where the McCanns ate meals, in her handbag and on her purse, on her credit cards and items of jewellery including her watch if she had one! On the hairbrush she must have used several times a day when she brushed her hair, on her toothbrush which she used morning and night, and let's not forget that on the night that Madeleine McCann was reported missing, that Kate McCann stayed overnight in one of the other tapas groups apartment?

And so, with so many other locations, places and things of interest where there was no cadaver odour present or found there, I don't think that to rely upon historical cadaver odour as the means to explain that which was detected holds any merit!
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