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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #315 on: May 21, 2011, 04:22:PM »
Significance of the Smith family sighting:-

Gerry McCann  was identified as the person seen carrying a child who could have been Maddie, in close proximity to "LUZdoc", and may have been an attempt by him to get medical assistance, but it was closed at the time of the alleged sighting...

The LUZdoc building is situated down towards the coastline, in the general direction where the Smith contingent were confronted by the man who could have been Gerry McCann...

He has a doppelgänger then as he couldn't be in two places at once? 

It was said that the child could have been MADELEINE McCANN, although it was never peremptorily stated. Some time later, the witness alleged that, by its stance, the individual who carried the child could be GERALD McCANN, which was concluded when he saw him descending the stairs from an airplane, pages 2871, 3991 and following and 4135 and following. It was established that at the time that was being mentioned, GERALD McCANN was sitting at the table, in the Tapas Restaurant.'
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There is no proof that Gerry McCann was sat at the tapas bar restaurant at the time the Smith family saw the man carrying off Maddie, the CCTV machine in the bar was not working that night, at least that is what I understand from reading the Maddie files. The stories given by different members of the tapas 9 do not add up, about the movements of everybody, timings are out, and reasons for being absent from the bar are not clear, in all cases...

Smith family say that they left Kellys bar, at about 9:30pm, it does not mean that it was 9:30pm, and in any event there would be some delay between leaving Kellys bar and the spot where they were confronted by the man carrying the child who could have been Maddie...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #316 on: May 21, 2011, 04:29:PM »
In an interview with the Drogheda Independent the Smiths state that they remembered passing a man walking towards the beach with a child in his arms.
 
Other than his approximate height and the fact that he was wearing beige clothes they cannot be more specific than that. 'We are annoyed at how vague our description is,' said the family member.

From the horses mouth...why did they not return to Portugal for the reconstruction?

Drogheda Independent article

The Smith's sighting
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #317 on: May 21, 2011, 04:34:PM »
In an interview with the Drogheda Independent the Smiths state that they remembered passing a man walking towards the beach with a child in his arms.
 
Other than his approximate height and the fact that he was wearing beige clothes they cannot be more specific than that. 'We are annoyed at how vague our description is,' said the family member.

From the horses mouth...why did they not return to Portugal for the reconstruction?

Drogheda Independent article



[url=http://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html]The Smith's sighting

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Sighting took place on a street near to "LUZdoc", in the general direction of the beach away from apartment 5a...

On Gerry's own version of events it was not long after 10 O'clock that he went out looking for Maddie in the streets...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #318 on: May 21, 2011, 04:40:PM »
I think the Smith sighting at around 10pm, is more significant and reliable than the earlier Jane Tanner sighting, which I believe was concocted with a view to diverting attention away from the truth about what actually took place...

The Met. need to take a very close look at Jane Tanner, and her partner, and what they got up to that evening? Their movements between the tapas bar and the apartment block where Maddie was tucked up in bed, needs to be scrutinized very closely...

And the movements of Russell O'Brien, in particular...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #319 on: May 21, 2011, 05:01:PM »
It would take about 6 / 7 minutes to walk directly down to the beach from apartment 5a, and about 10 minutes if someone walked the route to where the Smith Contingent saw the man carrying off the child believed to have been Maddie...

A footpath to the beach in that general direction gave access to the second horizontal drain, where Maddie's body could have been originally and temporarily concealed, close to where small fishing boats are moored up at night...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #320 on: May 21, 2011, 05:03:PM »
Derelict building and its grounds and the church, are only a short way from this second horizontal drain...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #321 on: May 21, 2011, 05:08:PM »
There were three access points to get into the derelict building and its grounds:-

(1) through front door which was locked, so someone would need a key to get in by this route

(2) through small gate at front side of building

(3) Over wall adjacent to pub, at rear of premises...

Use of hire car parked in street outside derelict building would be the perfect foil for anyone wanting to move the body or its remains or items (used in the movement of the body) to or from the building...

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #322 on: May 21, 2011, 05:10:PM »
It wasn't Gerry McCann and nobody identified him carrying any child that night.  If what the Smiths are saying is gospel and I for one believe them, they witnessed an abductor carrying Maddy to a car that night and to a clean get-away since the Portuguese cops failed to put a proper extended search perimeter in place.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #323 on: May 21, 2011, 05:11:PM »
A coastal footpath runs from the location of the second horizontal drain near the small fishing boats, to the concrete steps and footpath at the side of the pub and access to the grounds of the derelict building - which could have been used when Maddie's body was transferred to its last resting place...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #324 on: May 21, 2011, 05:13:PM »
It wasn't Gerry McCann and nobody identified him carrying any child that night.  If what the smiths are saying is gospel and I for one believe them, they witnesses an abductor carrying Maddy to a car and a get away.
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I think the Smith sighting is the closest anybody is going to get to the truth out of the current information available, the Met. might uncover more information...

Why would any would be abductor carry Maddie all that way to put her in a car and risk being spotted along the route he took from apartment 5a? He would surely have had a car closer to the place were the abduction was to take place, not on the other side of town...

In my opinion...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #325 on: May 21, 2011, 05:16:PM »
Maybe he didn't want his car to be seen.   ::)

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #326 on: May 21, 2011, 05:55:PM »
Maybe he didn't want his car to be seen.   ::)
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Gerry McCann and the other members of the tapas group did not have a car at that time...
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #327 on: May 21, 2011, 05:58:PM »
We are discussing the abductor, not Gerry McCann!  The abductor would have had his car parked nearby just in case someone like the Smith's would have thought to take his registration number.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #328 on: May 21, 2011, 06:07:PM »
We are discussing the abductor, not Gerry McCann!  The abductor would have had his car parked nearby just in case someone like the Smith's would have thought to take his registration number.

John, have you read Amaral's book, 'Truth of the Lie'?  The link is on this thread.  Obviously I know your standpoint... but I wondered if you had already considered Amaral's arguments in coming to your standpoint.  He comes across as no fool and he has the policing  / investigative experience from the portugese perspective.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #329 on: May 21, 2011, 06:12:PM »
We are discussing the abductor, not Gerry McCann!  The abductor would have had his car parked nearby just in case someone like the Smith's would have thought to take his registration number.
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If there was an abductor it was one of the tapas group...
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