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Online mike tesko

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5145 on: June 19, 2020, 05:02:AM »
The way that I see it, the McCann parents (one or the other, or both), and one or two other group members, including staff / members of the Ocean club, were known to eachother long before the Mccanns arrived in Portugal!
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5146 on: June 19, 2020, 05:07:AM »
The way that I see it, the McCann parents (one or the other, or both), and one or two other group members, including staff / members of the Ocean club, were known to eachother long before the Mccanns arrived in Portugal!

Included in this group, were / is Robert Murat, Serge Mallinka, Christian B, and a determination to follow demonic worship protocol(s)
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5147 on: June 20, 2020, 06:40:PM »
The Portugese police destroyed CBs camper van back in 2009.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/maddie-suspects-van-crushed-police-22223416

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5148 on: June 20, 2020, 11:47:PM »
CBs former lawyer has told the press that he is not surprised by the developments and that CB probably killed Madeleine.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5150 on: June 21, 2020, 01:28:PM »

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5151 on: June 21, 2020, 01:46:PM »
Has your view on the case changed Mike, since the recent developments?

How can the wells be tied specifically to CB? Bodies have been dumped in wells for millennia.

If the McCann's had help in disposing of Maddie's remains, then somebody might have knowledge of that. CB could have knowledge or somebody else could have knowledge.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5152 on: June 21, 2020, 01:58:PM »
How can the wells be tied specifically to CB? Bodies have been dumped in wells for millennia.


They are searching wells around the farmhouse he was living in at the time. If she is found in one of them it would be extremely incriminating.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5153 on: June 21, 2020, 02:59:PM »
They are searching wells around the farmhouse he was living in at the time. If she is found in one of them it would be extremely incriminating.

Let's see the map? Bearing in mind the proximity to Pria Da Luz and the cadavar alerts in the McCann's hire car.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5154 on: June 21, 2020, 03:32:PM »
Let's see the map? Bearing in mind the proximity to Pria Da Luz and the cadavar alerts in the McCann's hire car.


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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5155 on: June 21, 2020, 04:01:PM »


But where are the wells? We need like an overhead map. Maybe the press will provide one soon.

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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5156 on: June 21, 2020, 08:28:PM »
From Sputnik:

The investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, a 3-year old British girl who went missing in Portugal in 2007, has seen a significant development recently, as German authorities have identified who they believe is the primary suspect in her disappearance.

Christian Brueckner, the primary suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, had “psychopathic traits”, his former lawyer has said.

Serafim Vieira, who worked as a legal representative for the 44-year old German sex offender, also claimed in an interview with Portugal’s RTP TV that he believes that Brueckner could be behind McCann's abduction.

“I believe he could be behind the disappearance of Maddie," he said. “I can’t say he didn’t have a psychopathic temperament - on the contrary," Mr. Vieira worked for Brueckner in 2006 following his arrest for stealing diesel from HGVs in Portugal’s Algarve - a year before Madeline went missing."

The lawyer suggested that he may have admitted his guilt to that crime to prevent police from searching a farmhouse near Praia da Luz, Portugal where he lived. Law enforcement were therefore unaware of Brueckner's residency there when they conducted their search for McCann in 2007.

Madeleine disappeared in May, 4 months after Brueckner's release and just before her fourth birthday. This sparked a worldwide search which has involved British, Portuguese, and German police.

After more than a decade of investigation, German law enforcement revealed that Brueckner was their main suspect in the McCann disappearance.

A mobile phone call to the suspect placed him in the Praia da Luz area, which she disappeared from on the night in question.

German authorities are looking into any potential involvement by staff at the complex where the McCanns stayed to see if they gave any of the McCann's residency details.

“We are investigating if an Ocean Club member of staff helped the suspect on the night Madeleine disappeared,", said Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor leading the investigation.

“This is of interest to us. The phone call made by the suspect could be between him and a member of staff who told him when to break into the McCanns’ apartment".

While 2 workers in the complex with criminal records have been interviewed by Portuguese authorities, there is so far no evidence they worked with Brueckner.

Gerry and Kate McCann were on a vacation in Praia da Luz with their three children when their daughter went missing.

They had been dining with a group of friends in a restaurant nearby, while the children slept in the apartment. Throughout the evening, the adults returned to check on them but at around 10pm, Mrs McCann discovered that Madeleine was missing.

German investigators have informed the McCann's that they believe Madeleine is dead.
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5157 on: June 22, 2020, 07:32:AM »
Has your view on the case changed Mike, since the recent developments?

David1819, no I still believe parents are involved, aided and abbetted by other group members; at least two Ocean club members of staff; Robert Murat; Serge Malinka;  the illusive priest from St Vincent's Church who took the McCanns confessions, before handing over the keys of the church to where they sought nightly refuge, whilst their other two children were being looked after by some as yet unidentified party..

It is still my belief that Madelienes body was taken into the derelict building opposite the church in Prai De Luz, and that the parents, were in communication with the person(s) responsible for disposing of their daughters remains, by use of Gerald McCanns mobile phone (from breakfast time, on the morning of Thursday the 3rd May 2007, thereafter). The Cadaver dog and bloodhound alerts in apartment 5A, also the wardrobe in parents bedroom; behind Sofa in living room; In bushes of poolside garden; in front of hire car; on ignition key to hire car; in boot of hire car; Cuddlecat toy; Kate McCanns clothing, must amount to either, the dead body of Madeliene or another having been concealed, or touched, carried or transported at one time or another. Cadaveric scent and blood could have been transferred to all the aforementioned locations simply by having physical contact with a dead person (including/excluding a deceased Madeliene McCann)  elsewhere, or for that matter, as if someone had come into contact with an item of clothing worn by a deceased person!  So, the dog alerts don't prove or establish that the deceased body of Madeliene was necessarily present at any stage in all the locations where the dogs alerted. But, it suggests that somebody who had contact with a deceased person, or an item of clothing worn by the deceased, or was at one time or another in all the locations where the dogs alerted...

With so many dog alerts all over the place, inside apartment 5A, outside apartment 5A, on items of clothing, on Madelienes 'Cuddlecat toy, in the front of the hire car, in the boot of the hire car, on the ignition key to the hire car, etc,it suggests very strongly that the McCann parents had some sort of a connection with a dead body, and Madelienes disappearance. Who else, could have visited all the locations or touched items, and had involvement with the hire car, other than Gerald McCann, Kate Healey, or a group member?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5158 on: June 22, 2020, 07:44:AM »

With so many dog alerts all over the place, inside apartment 5A, outside apartment 5A, on items of clothing, on Madelienes 'Cuddlecat toy, in the front of the hire car, in the boot of the hire car, on the ignition key to the hire car, etc,it suggests very strongly that the McCann parents had some sort of a connection with a dead body, and Madelienes disappearance. Who else, could have visited all the locations or touched items, and had involvement with the hire car, other than Gerald McCann, Kate Healey, or a group member?

There is also the matter of the missing holdall belonging to Gerald McCann which was photographed in the parents bedroom wardrobe on the first day of the police investigation ( big enough to conceal the body of a small child)? Was it just a coincidence that the Cadaver dog alerted to the exact same spot inside the parents wardrobe where the holdall had been photographed?

And then the holdall vanished, just like Madeliene appears to have evaporated?
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Re: The case of Madeleine McCann
« Reply #5159 on: June 22, 2020, 09:19:AM »
There is also the matter of the missing holdall belonging to Gerald McCann which was photographed in the parents bedroom wardrobe on the first day of the police investigation ( big enough to conceal the body of a small child)? Was it just a coincidence that the Cadaver dog alerted to the exact same spot inside the parents wardrobe where the holdall had been photographed?

And then the holdall vanished, just like Madeliene appears to have evaporated?

If you tie Bruckner to the disappearance, then you have to tie the McCann's to Bruckner. Or, you have to tie both the McCann's and Bruckner to an intermediary agent. If Bruckner has knowledge of Maddie's remains having been disposed of, that in itself does not implicate Bruckner to the exclusion of all other parties.

There may well have been a 'paedophile ring' operating. If there was one operating, that does not in itself implicate the McCann's regarding any involvement in such circles. For example, it's possible for Maddie to have died in an accident and it's possible that the McCann's were assisted in disposing of Maddie's corpse directly or indirectly, by persons linked to any such ring.

It is inconceivable that a cadaver dog would pinpoint only the McCann's apartment and only the McCann's hire car, to the exclusion of all other apartments and cars that were checked, by chance or in error, with a child missing from that very same apartment.

However, if Maddie died in an accident, there would have to be some other potentially negligent or sinister aspect linked to the accident, in order for the McCann's to stage Maddie's disappearance and obtain assistance in the disposal of her corpse.

If the UK police were serious about solving the case, they would have investigated the McCann's either openly or in secret. The police were told not to do so. Even though UK police were initially in agreement with the PJ regarding the McCann's.  That block on the police investigating the McCann's is political and sinister. The block on Amaral's book is sinister.

Why was a high level govt spin doctor allocated to the McCann's? What happened to their first spokesperson? I believe she realised that the McCann's were genuinely implicated and she was replaced.

Like I said before, the Portuguese are not stupid. They are not inferior or lacking in intelligence or in powers of detection. They are not somehow unable to sniff out a lie.

If we criticise the Portuguese for not following all these leads we have seen come to nothing in recent years, then we should criticise the UK for not further investigating the McCann's.  I belive the Portuguese would have got there, if they had been left to continue their investigation. And don't forget, there is not just one Amaral book but two. One about the involvement of British intelligence.

New Mail article re Amaral: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8445467/Maddie-McCann-prime-suspect-Christian-Brueckner-scapegoat-says-Portuguese-detective.html
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