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Offline campion

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Essex Police's Credibility
« on: April 01, 2012, 04:10:PM »
    When the CCRC decision is made on an appeal, the Police, CPS and entire Justice System are going to get the much overdue reassessment of how evidence is presented. The fact that after so much time the safety of a conviction for Murder can be undone on the simplest of reason, the diameter of the dead persons wound did not match the Police's version of events demonstrates that the process of prosecution is so flawed, a new system has to be introduced. Essex police with all their cunning involved in cover ups, witness intimidation, fabricating evidence and arrogance are going to get the biggest wake up call they will ever get. Because of the way in which they sought a prosecution for Murder, which was successful until this latest revelation involving McKay Law, it beggars belief that Jeremy's defence Counsel never asked to have the same tests carried out before the original trial. Because of the test, how ever many times it is conducted the result will remain identical, a silencer attachment leaves a different size contact burn than a non silenced weapon. Making the argument that suicide was not possible because of the firearms extended length implausible even to the dimmest of dim Judges. Whatever new theory is hypothesised over to say Jeremy killed Shelia, Hitman, Milkman, Flowerpotman or any body else man on the evidence that Essex Police presented to Chelmsford Crown Court stating a silencer was attached to the Anshutz making it impossible to have been suicide is now destroyed. Even if accomplices are conjured up, and new prosecution evidence sought, double jeopardy rules this out. A trial for Murder must be as watertight as a Ducks Arse or the CCRC will need the office space of Manhattan. The case for the prosecution of Jeremy Bamber for the Murder of his family is Lost.   

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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2012, 01:14:PM »
  Now the dust is settling after the Williams-Thomas documentary the silence from the guilty camp is almost deafening !!!

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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2012, 01:22:PM »
there taking there time on this decision they were supposed to have decided by now.

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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 01:30:PM »
  nugnug, they can take all the time they like, they cannot change the fact that there was no silencer on the gun when the fatal shot to Shelia was fired. This has become a " Humpty Dumpty " scenario and no matter how hard they try they can never put it back together again. The longer this goes on the more they will look like a " Humpty Dumpty Numpty " !!!!!!   

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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2012, 01:38:PM »
A very good way of putting it Campion!

I expect in a lot of ways many people would like Jeremy let out of prison quietly so this will go away but that is impossible

There is no easy way out of this one for the police, the ccrc, the judicial system and the relatives

The cover ups have been gigantic but there are so many good honest people who will not let this stop now
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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2012, 01:40:PM »
  Now the dust is settling after the Williams-Thomas documentary the silence from the guilty camp is almost deafening !!!

They might be relying upon the blood / DNA evidence re the silencer and Julie Mugford's testimony remaining intact.
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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2012, 01:45:PM »
   Roch that may be their reason, but whatever is said the results of the test remain, there was no silencer on the gun that killed Shelia....  Mike Tesko has Won !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   

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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2012, 02:33:PM »
   Roch that may be their reason, but whatever is said the results of the test remain, there was no silencer on the gun that killed Shelia....  Mike Tesko has Won !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On slight hitch is that the CCRC are yet to refer Campion.  I'm pretty sure the defence now have more new stuff but couldn't get it in time for the last deadline.  There is also the mountain of other anomalies that was being persued prior to SMcK taking over.  If the CCRC do not refer, they will possibly face judicial review.  The defence feel that the statutory test for referral has been provided.  If a referral is made, I think the floodgates will open. 

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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2012, 02:47:PM »
   Where does the system go from here, this evidence has discredited the former Home Secretary Michael Howard, who ruled Jeremy should never be released. The Prime Minister David Cameron who has said Publicly Jeremy should never be released. The City of London Police who found no evidence of wrong doing in favour of Essex Police. The Crown Prosecution Service who sent this for trial. Justice Drake who instructed a Jury that on the Silencer evidence alone Jeremy should be found Guilty. Jeremy's lawyers who somehow missed this vital piece of evidence, they must have seen the Autopsy Report. The Appeal Court Judges who have maintained the conviction for Murder was safe. In fact the only people that can be excluded are the Criminal Cases Review Commission as they are now looking at the evidence presented to them by McKay Law. Four Million people watched a test for gunshot contact burn on ITV 1 that proved no silencer was used on the fatal shot to Shelia. Jeremy who was nearly killed in Prison where he should never have been based on the silencer evidence, he was disinherited by his relatives and Demonised by the Media as a Child Killer. How does anyone begin to Compensate an Individual for that. On the Silencer Evidence alone an entire System has just been Crushed !!!! 

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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2012, 02:48:PM »
What marks are left if a rifle with a sound moderator fitted is fired into the neck whilst in contact with the skin, or almost in contact with the skin, but not pressed against the skin?

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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2012, 02:50:PM »
  Bigger ones....

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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2012, 02:54:PM »
Maybe the day will dawn on the relatives when they realise Sheila was responsible and they will start putting in place an excercise where they will begin to return to Jeremy everything that rightly belongs to him that Neville worked so very hard for and that he would have left for his son

Or maybe

If Jeremys conviction is overturned they will fight it all the way
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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2012, 02:54:PM »
  Reader, I think the only way for people to make up their own mind is to watch the Williams-Thomas test on YouTube...

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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2012, 03:25:PM »
Maybe the day will dawn on the relatives when they realise Sheila was responsible and they will start putting in place an excercise where they will begin to return to Jeremy everything that rightly belongs to him that Neville worked so very hard for and that he would have left for his son

Or maybe

If Jeremys conviction is overturned they will fight it all the way
I wonder if it had been one of their own that had been convicted would they hold their belief in them being guilty so tenaciously?

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Re: Essex Police's Credibility
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2012, 03:43:PM »
  Grahame, I wonder what Peter Suthehurst ( Photographic Specialist ) said when he watched the documentary and do you think they had it on at Full Sutton Prison !!!