Bamber Country

[campion]

     The farm Bamber stood to take a 50% stake in on the passing of his grandmother has a rather
complicated history. Carbonells farm was part of Wix Manor. Wix has many different corrupted forms
of spelling, it can be spelt Wix,Wykes,Wicks and Wich. They all have the same meaning and it has to do
with salt. Some of you will be aware that salt was an important commodity in Roman times and you will
also know that Dehlia Smith always uses Maldon Sea Salt when she is cooking. At the moment Maldon
is famous for three things. The fat bloke,Jeremy Bamber and Maldon Sea Salt, but, there may also be
something else.

      Back to granny Speakmans farm, as you could expect the name Carbonell is derived from a surname,
in Morants history of Essex it mentions a John Carbonell from the year 1280, and that the manor of
Carbonells is derived from the capital manor of Wics. The parish of Wix is made up of four principal
manors, Wics, Carbonells, Hamstall and the Nunnery. The Nunnery was for Benedictine Nuns and
dedicated to the Virgin Mary. It was founded in the reign of Henry 1 and by the reign of Henry 2, 5 acres
of land was added in Tolleshunt. During the suppresion of the monasteries by Henry 8, Cardinal Wolsey
took personal possesion of Wikes Hall alias Wikes Abbey. The 17thC writer Thomas Tanner states that
the original deeds to Wykes Priory were in a Cardinals bundle amongst the records in chancery and the
bags of Essex and Suffolk in the Talley Court at the Exchequer and in Eton College, evidence room
drawer 59. He adds vide cartas quasadam originales in pyxhide cartarum legat.ab ant.wood. in museo
ashmolean oxon. In bibl.bodl.oxon ms dodsworth vol xxxix fol 90, ex cartis hujus monasteries. Ther is also
a confirmation deed of Henry 2 preserved among the carte antiquae in the Tower of London.

    Righto Campion thats really interesting so what, well the manor of Wix as far as I can be sure was
swapped with Eton School for St James Westminster. Cardinal Wolsey or Thomas Wolsey as he was
known in his native Ipswich is killed near Leicester because he wants to build a University at Ipswich,
fortunately he has a fully trained understudy in Thomas Cromwell. Who just happens to marry a woman
called Elizabeth Wykes, in 1510, now that is a remarkable coincidence, because at this time Wolsey
has gone to Rome and got a Papal Bull to start dissolving the lesser monasteries.

    If we now go back to the parish of Wix, the four estates are controlled by the principal manor, in
Edward the Confessors reign it is owned by Queen Edeva. Wix as you will find on maps is near Clacton
and is just a random area of land, of little importance to anyone other than Jeremy Bamber or is it !!!   

[nugnug]

there used to be a pub called the wagon there thats about all i know of wix.

[SUMMER]

campion, I found your post facinating!
Is there anything else that you have found out and not told us yet?
Was Wix of importance to anyone else?
Summer

[Roch]

Very interesting Campion. 

[nugnug]

so who was going to get the other half of the farm.

[Chochokeira]

     The farm Bamber stood to take a 50% stake in on the passing of his grandmother has a rather
complicated history. Carbonells farm was part of Wix Manor. Wix has many different corrupted forms
of spelling, it can be spelt Wix,Wykes,Wicks and Wich. They all have the same meaning and it has to do
with salt. Some of you will be aware that salt was an important commodity in Roman times and you will
also know that Dehlia Smith always uses Maldon Sea Salt when she is cooking. At the moment Maldon
is famous for three things. The fat bloke,Jeremy Bamber and Maldon Sea Salt, but, there may also be
something else.

      Back to granny Speakmans farm, as you could expect the name Carbonell is derived from a surname,
in Morants history of Essex it mentions a John Carbonell from the year 1280, and that the manor of
Carbonells is derived from the capital manor of Wics. The parish of Wix is made up of four principal
manors, Wics, Carbonells, Hamstall and the Nunnery. The Nunnery was for Benedictine Nuns and
dedicated to the Virgin Mary. It was founded in the reign of Henry 1 and by the reign of Henry 2, 5 acres
of land was added in Tolleshunt. During the suppresion of the monasteries by Henry 8, Cardinal Wolsey
took personal possesion of Wikes Hall alias Wikes Abbey. The 17thC writer Thomas Tanner states that
the original deeds to Wykes Priory were in a Cardinals bundle amongst the records in chancery and the
bags of Essex and Suffolk in the Talley Court at the Exchequer and in Eton College, evidence room
drawer 59. He adds vide cartas quasadam originales in pyxhide cartarum legat.ab ant.wood. in museo
ashmolean oxon. In bibl.bodl.oxon ms dodsworth vol xxxix fol 90, ex cartis hujus monasteries. Ther is also
a confirmation deed of Henry 2 preserved among the carte antiquae in the Tower of London.

    Righto Campion thats really interesting so what, well the manor of Wix as far as I can be sure was
swapped with Eton School for St James Westminster. Cardinal Wolsey or Thomas Wolsey as he was
known in his native Ipswich is killed near Leicester because he wants to build a University at Ipswich,
fortunately he has a fully trained understudy in Thomas Cromwell. Who just happens to marry a woman
called Elizabeth Wykes, in 1510, now that is a remarkable coincidence, because at this time Wolsey
has gone to Rome and got a Papal Bull to start dissolving the lesser monasteries.

    If we now go back to the parish of Wix, the four estates are controlled by the principal manor, in
Edward the Confessors reign it is owned by Queen Edeva. Wix as you will find on maps is near Clacton
and is just a random area of land, of little importance to anyone other than Jeremy Bamber or is it !!!

Fascinating, Campion! Tell us more, please.

[campion]

      Another of granny Speakmans properties Vaulty Manor was formerly part of the manor of Totham
with Goldangre, the earliest possessors being the De Jarpenvill family. Three knights fees were due
to the Crown. A single knights fee was the knight, his horse, his armour and attendants for one year,
three was a considerable provision. A person with this type of mandate would need to be seriously
wealthy. Little Totham had to provide one knights fee. The knights were often escorts on crusades and
were probably families of former knights Templar's.

     Fawlty manor belonged to Beeleigh Abbey, after the suppresion, Henry 8 granted falty manor to
Charles Brandon, Duke of Suffolk in 1538. He by licence sells the manor of Goldhanger in Falty to a
London goldsmith Robert Trapps on the 20 Jan the same year. There was a considerable ( yes you've
guessed it ) Saltworks here, the saltworks of Thurstable and Winstree hundred are frequently met
in the Doomsday book. Beeleigh Abbey like the Abbey at Wix was Roman Catholic, as was Cardinal
Wolsey and Thomas Cromwell. Yes, Campion fascinating stuff, but where is this leading and what does
it have to do with Jeremy. Ralph owned land round Vaulty Manor, together with Vaulty Manor owned
by granny Speakman, a sizeable chunk of real estate, as the American's say.   

[campion]

    Thurstable, the hundred that covers Heybridge, Langford, Wicham Bishops, Great and Little Totham,
Goldhanger, Tolleshunt Major, Tolleshunt Knights, Tolleshunt D'Arcy and Tollesbury takes it's name
according to Morant M.A. takes it's name from Thor, a Saxon deity and Stable, possibly from the common word stable. At the time of the survey for the Doomsday Book it was possessed by the King and had
four saltworks in it. In some records it is written turestapla.

    Thurs is an ancient fabled Norse warrior god whose strength in battle they feared. The battle of
Maldon, which the Vikings won against the Saxon's whose chieftan Brynoth according to legend, fought
with six warriors and a large black dog against overwhelming odds. This explanation is possibly closer
to the truth and may also give a clue to Thurstables origin as a defended territory of major significance,
why would the Vikings invade. Brynoth was killed close to the Osea Caravan park, amongst who's
owner's was none other than Jeremy.  Osea caravan park is located next to the river Blackwater where
the Viking longboats landed.     

[grahameb]

    Thurstable, the hundred that covers Heybridge, Langford, Wicham Bishops, Great and Little Totham,
Goldhanger, Tolleshunt Major, Tolleshunt Knights, Tolleshunt D'Arcy and Tollesbury takes it's name
according to Morant M.A. takes it's name from Thor, a Saxon deity and Stable, possibly from the common word stable. At the time of the survey for the Doomsday Book it was possessed by the King and had
four saltworks in it. In some records it is written turestapla.

    Thurs is an ancient fabled Norse warrior god whose strength in battle they feared. The battle of
Maldon, which the Vikings won against the Saxon's whose chieftan Brynoth according to legend, fought
with six warriors and a large black dog against overwhelming odds. This explanation is possibly closer
to the truth and may also give a clue to Thurstables origin as a defended territory of major significance,
why would the Vikings invade. Brynoth was killed close to the Osea Caravan park, amongst who's
owner's was none other than Jeremy.  Osea caravan park is located next to the river Blackwater where
the Viking longboats landed.   

I thought Brythnoth  was killed just opposite Northy Island where there is a plaque erected? http://www.battleofmaldon.org.uk/ Nice work though.

[nugnug]

i see so the vikings wanted the caravan park then.

[campion]

   Grahame, how far is Northey island from the caravan park ? And nugnug no I don't think they
came all that way for a week in caravan, unless it was the school holidays !!!     

[grahameb]

   Grahame, how far is Northey island from the caravan park ? And nugnug no I don't think they
came all that way for a week in caravan, unless it was the school holidays !!!   

Well as you can see from the map Northy Island causeway is on the Mundon Road end. The Osea Island causeway is on the Goldhanger road on the other side of the river. It's a fair way by road. I've walked along the sea wall to it from Heybridge Basin though. Bet the Vikings may have landed on the other side of Northy Island on the Osea Island side and trekked across Northy and onto the marshes where the Northy causeway is?

[grahameb]

Strange? The inscription written on his tomb in Ely Cathedral reads, "Brithnoth, Duke of Northumberland, killed in battle by the Danes 991 AD"

[campion]

     Tollesbury the parish next door to White House Farm, joins on the west to the Tolleshunts and
Goldhanger. The name is derived from toll, the next bit Morant gets wrong. Bury, he says means town,
it in fact means King/Royal. Morant then goes on to say that it unquestionably was for tolls paid by ships
coming up the bay. The nunnery of Berking held lands here before the survey Morant adds. From the survey until 1329, Tollesbury is recorded asTolleshunt Guisnes, from Baldwin Earl of Guisnes.

     The parish was divided into four manors, Bourchiers Hall, St Mary of Berking, Gorwell and Bohuns-Hall
the rectory is also a manor. Bouchiers Hall Manor was given by Ernulph de Hordes to Balwin, Earl of
Guisnes in marriage for his daughter. Guisnes possessed three knights fees. The manor of St Marys of
Berking belonged to Barking Abbey, whose origins can be traced back to Ethelburga, the first Abbess,
daughter of the 7th century Offa king of Mercia. Gorwell Manor is subordinate to Bouchiers-Hall of which
they hold service of half a knights fee. Bohuns Hall or Bones Hall is of unknown ownership until it is given
to Thomas Lord Cromwell, just before he is made Earl of Essex in 1539, as is the whole of Tollesbury at
the dissolution of the monasteries. At the moment I can't find a direct link to Jeremy, other than the
Blackwater and him have both got big mouths. Where there is interest is that Tollesbury is opposite
of the Roman fort called Othona at Bradwell. This is the same site where St Cedd built St Peters Chapel
in the 7th century. St Cedd came from Lindisfarne.

    Robert Bouchier was a former Lord Chancellor of England. Upon the execution of Thomas Cromwell,
at the Tower of London, Tollesbury is given to Lady Mary, later Mary Queen of Scots, another previous
owner is Anne of Cleaves and Catherine Howards family are heavily involved here. In fact Tollesburys
past residents are the Whos Who of Whos Whos. You couldn't make this up. !!!!!!   

[campion]

   Grahame theres two things that are important with all of this. The first is the Bay at Goldhanger, the
sea came right in at Heybidge Basin, thats why they built the causeway which cost a fortune. The second is this, the victorius always write the history.