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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #90 on: January 28, 2012, 08:55:AM »
The silencer (1) took to the lab' by DI 'Ron' Cook was the one (SBJ/1), which DS 'Stan' Jones took from the scene along with three other exhibits (SBJ/4, SBJ/3, and SBJ/2) from an early stage...

Once DS 'Stan' Jones took possession of the silencer which the relatives sought to introduce into the investigation, it is almost certain that he brought this to the attention of his senior officer, DCI 'Taff' Jones, and that this was how DCI Jones ended up with it in his possession, so that as of 13th August 1985, one silencer (SBJ/1) was taken to the lab' by DI 'Ron' Cook, and the other was retained by DCI 'Taff' Jones on his desk in his office at Witham police station...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #91 on: January 28, 2012, 08:59:AM »
The silencer (1) took to the lab' by DI 'Ron' Cook was the one (SBJ/1), which DS 'Stan' Jones took from the scene along with three other exhibits (SBJ/4, SBJ/3, and SBJ/2) from an early stage...

The other silencer (2) introduced by the relatives as part of their scheme to pin the blame on Jeremy, remained on DCI 'Taff' Jones desk at Witham police station until PC Whiddon stepped in, and took it along to the force armoury and screwed it into the barrel of the anshulz rifle. Then it was eventually submitted to the lab' to be checked for blood and fibres on 20th September 1985, and not actually examined for the very first time until 25th September 1985, at which point paint from the aga surround was found ingrained upon it...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #92 on: January 28, 2012, 09:01:AM »
Once the nature of the investigation changed from SC/688/85 into SC/786/85, both silencers and the blood evidence from one (1) and the paint evidence from the other (2) were merged into being found in the same silencer...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #93 on: January 28, 2012, 09:03:AM »
Once the nature of the investigation changed from SC/688/85 into SC/786/85, both silencers and the blood evidence from one (1) and the paint evidence from the other (2) were merged into being found in the same silencer...

This came about because of the relationship between the heads of investigation and the relatives, where DCI 'Taff' Jones did not particular get on well with the relatives because of their interfering natures, when the investigation was SC/688/85, whereas, when the natuire of the investigation changed into SC/786/85, DCS 'Mick' Ainsley became their best friend...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #94 on: January 28, 2012, 10:01:AM »
PC 'Christopher' Whiddon, was photographed and videoed on different occasions with the rifle and silencer - see these two examples:-
What dates are the two occasions Mike & also are they the actual items used in the murder.im pretty sure looking at the photo it's the actual rifle as it seems to have stock damage.if it is so I can't see the law showing the murder weapon pre trial. The act of screwing the silencer on for the cameras would of been to show SC couldn't of shot herself "silencer on" so to speak.i would of thought the jury would of seen that demonstration first,before the general public. Wouldn't a demonstration of this kind prejudice a trial if it shown Pre Verdict?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #95 on: January 28, 2012, 10:06:AM »
What dates are the two occasions Mike & also are they the actual items used in the murder.im pretty sure looking at the photo it's the actual rifle as it seems to have stock damage.if it is so I can't see the law showing the murder weapon pre trial. The act of screwing the silencer on for the cameras would of been to show SC couldn't of shot herself "silencer on" so to speak.i would of thought the jury would of seen that demonstration first,before the general public. Wouldn't a demonstration of this kind prejudice a trial if it shown Pre Verdict?
Yes if that was so, that the silencer was screwed onto the gun for that reason the judge would have ruled a mistrial. So I should thin the photo was taken after the trial?

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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #96 on: January 28, 2012, 10:08:AM »
Yes if that was so, that the silencer was screwed onto the gun for that reason the judge would have ruled a mistrial. So I should thin the photo was taken after the trial?
So. With respect.whats all the song and dance about?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #97 on: January 28, 2012, 10:12:AM »
So. With respect.whats all the song and dance about?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #98 on: January 28, 2012, 10:14:AM »
Not sure?
I'm sure time won't tell.... ;)
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #99 on: January 28, 2012, 11:42:AM »
I'm sure time won't tell.... ;)

Don't count on it - fact is that PC Whiddon did take the silencer from DCI 'Taff' Jones desk, and he did take it along to the force armoury, and he did screw it onto the barrel of the anshulz rifle, and he did all these things before that silencer (2) and the anshulz rifle, were both sent along to the lab' on 20th September 1985...

Now if he did that before silencer (2) and the anshulz rifle were sent to the lab' on 20th September 1985, then he obviously put the silencer at risk of being contaminated. This becomes important if we go along with the one silencer in existence approach, since it provides a legitimate opportunity for blood that was dried into and onto the thread on the end of the rifles barrel, to be forced by dynamic process back into the silencer when PC Whiddon screwed that silencer onto the barrel of the gun before 20th September 1985. The barrel of that rifle was pho0tograihed at the scene resting against the neck of Sheila in close proximity to running and leaking blood, and so it would not be too difficult to imagine how some of Sheila's blood could have got onto and into the thread of the rifles barrel at that point. If you then get two or more police officers screwing a silencer onto the thread of that rifle, then the consequences could be catastrophic in so far as contamination or the risk of contamination having occurred by these events having taken place...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #100 on: January 28, 2012, 11:48:AM »
Why did DCI 'Taff' Jones submit a report re the silencer and scenes of crime, if he had nothing whatsoever to do with it, or know nothing at all about it?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #101 on: January 28, 2012, 11:49:AM »
So when are the pictures dated Mike?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #102 on: January 28, 2012, 11:51:AM »
Why did DCI 'Taff' Jones submit a report re the silencer and scenes of crime, if he had nothing whatsoever to do with it, or know nothing at all about it?

For some as yet unexplained unknown reason, DCI 'Taff' Jones has been written out of the script as far as the silencer is/was concerned - DS 'Stan' Jones don't mention him, PI 'Bob' Miller don't mention him, DI 'Ron' Cook, don't mention him, its thought Essex police did not want any reference to the involvement of 'Taff' Jones with the silencer, once he was dead and out of the way...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #103 on: January 28, 2012, 11:52:AM »
What is the date of the report you have loaded Mike?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #104 on: January 28, 2012, 11:56:AM »
So when are the pictures dated Mike?

That information, should be in the possession of those representing Jeremy's interests, There are two photographs which show the silencer fitted to the barrel of the rifle, one which was taken by DI 'Ron' Cook, on 29th August 1985, and the other when PC Whiddon took the silencer from the desk of DCI ;'Taff' Jones along to the force armoury to screw it onto9 the barrel of the rifle...

To date...

neither Di 'Ron' Cook, nor PC 'Chris' Whiddon, have denied taking the silencer and screwing it onto the barrel of the gun in the circumstances which my informants have said they undertook such action...
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