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Offline WakeyWakey

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Scott Forbes and Sandra Lean
« on: February 22, 2021, 08:54:PM »
https://twitter.com/Scf65Forbes/status/1362845413938761728?s=19

Has sandra lean ever talked publicly about how she knows scott forbes?

it sounds like something that should been mentioned in interest of full disclosure, since he was the source of the mk allegations, was later dismissed and found to have invented these for a story to sell.

a key figure in spreading doubt in the security of the conviction the whole time, and it turns out  pair of them go way back... how has this never been disclosed?






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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2021, 11:02:PM »
They have always been the best oh pals. But she won't speak of this chap, it's as if he does not exist.

There is a reason, why the 2nd half of the BBC documentary won't be uploaded. Poor MK.

Thanks for posting this, no-where to hide now.

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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2021, 09:44:AM »
Wait, so Scott Forbes was pals with Lean, and interested in the case before he came up with the Mark Kane story?  :o

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Re: Scott Forbes and Sandra Lean
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2021, 09:49:AM »
They have always been the best oh pals. But she won't speak of this chap, it's as if he does not exist.

There is a reason, why the 2nd half of the BBC documentary won't be uploaded. Poor MK.

Thanks for posting this, no-where to hide now.

What is in the 2nd half of the documentary that's preventing Sandra from showing it?
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2021, 04:36:PM »
What is in the 2nd half of the documentary that's preventing Sandra from showing it?

Probably has something to do with this >>

"Producers interviewed a man whose drug addict friend had written about killing a woman in the woods shortly before 14-year-old Jodi's body was discovered with stab wounds in the village of Easthouses, near Dalkeith, in June 2003"


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Re: Scott Forbes and Sandra Lean
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2021, 04:46:PM »
Probably has something to do with this >>

"Producers interviewed a man whose drug addict friend had written about killing a woman in the woods shortly before 14-year-old Jodi's body was discovered with stab wounds in the village of Easthouses, near Dalkeith, in June 2003"



they probably should have had an "allegedly" in there about the story about killing a woman in the woods.

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The Crown objects to the new ground being presented, and Mr Beckett told the court that investigations had been carried out after a witness, Scott Forbes, put forward Mr Kane's name.

"He indicated Kane had written an essay, Killing a girl in the woods. The Crown had police take a statement from a lecturer and the lecturer confirmed that Kane wrote no such essay. I have information that Scott Forbes told Mark Kane, 'Just admit it … we will get 50,000 from the newspapers'," Mr Beckett said.

Depute Advocate John Beckett QC there. these claims were all looked into and dismissed.

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Re: Scott Forbes and Sandra Lean
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2021, 09:16:PM »
Wait, so Scott Forbes was pals with Lean, and interested in the case before he came up with the Mark Kane story?  :o

What is the Mark Kane story?

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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2021, 10:21:PM »
Having a quick scan though his twitter & he seems a seriously unhinged individual. The ranting & ravings of a psychopath. Attacking, abusing & trolling politicians, seems to be a favourite of his. Slippery slope going down that route & is asking for trouble. Not quite sure why somebody would spend all day on Twitter acting in such a manner, so much anger.

Anyway, says in original post he is from Mayfield. But, seems like he gets confused where he really comes from.

Think it really tells me, all I need to know about the characteristic of this individual.

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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2021, 11:25:AM »
What is the Mark Kane story?

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/luke-mitchell-witness-wanted-50k-968845


In the Frontline doc that Sandra is concealing Scott Forbes makes an appearance claiming to have no connection to anyone involved in the case and no reason to make anything up etc. Implicates his friend (now dead) who it has since been discovered was cleared by Police years prior and there is even CCTV footage from a shop in Newtongrange clearing him of involvement. Forbes tried to get his vulnerable addict friend to agree to being accused and ultimately cleared for financial gain.

Sandra recently lied in a youtube Q&A saying everything Forbes said was verified by case files. Actually everything has been disproved. The essay does not exist. Also funnily enough, Sandra tries to implicate Kane in the SCCRC submission by mentioning that he had a green parka, and that he was a fan of Manson, while trying to downplay Luke's disappearing green parka and Manson interest as irrelevant.

To find out Scott Forbes was actually friends with Sandra before any of this, and involved/supporting Luke's campaign, is shocking to say the least. It would be equivalent to nugnug suddenly deciding he had proof his friend killed Jodi. How convenient. ::) Scott Forbes also has a criminal/drug addiction background. Davie is also correct in that Scott Forbes isn't playing with a full deck. Also remained friends with this person for years after, despite apparently wanting us to believe he genuinely thinks he killed Jodi. Sandra knows Mark Kane is nothing to do with it but will keep mentioning him. The guy wholly responsible for Mark Kane's name being brought into it doesn't even believe he did it.

https://youtu.be/u8A62Khm7PI

That's Mark Kane playing pool at 2:34 mark. Scott Forbes is the grey haired guy facing the camera at 2:39.

You'll notice Mark Kane looked nothing like a 14 year old Luke. Not even a slight resemblance, let alone a "STRIKING" one.

The entire Mark Kane thing is one of the more pathetic/frustrating clutching of straws. I'll cringe if he's brought back up again tonight or tomorrow. It really shows Sandra has nothing.




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Re: Scott Forbes and Sandra Lean
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2021, 11:58:AM »
Who is lying here?

I'm not "concealing" the Frontline documentary - I've never been given copyright permission to make it public, even though I have requested that permission.

There is no CCTV footage from a shop in Newtongrange "clearing him of involvement" - the CCTV footage from the shop in Newtongrange was never checked for images of MK. The claim is that footage of him in a shop in Dalkeith at almost 10pm that night "cleared" him - how so? It's almost 5 hours after Jodi was supposed to have been murdered.

The case files show that Scott Forbes brought MK to police attention within the first week of the investigation. Other statements confirm what he says about MK's appearance and behaviour the day after the murder. The tutor concerned with the essay said only that she did not have such an essay (years later) and that she "did not recall" such an essay, although she did recall a different one, about robbing an old woman of her pensions money.

The inclusion of the MK information in the SCCRC submission was in support of the suggestion that the Fleming and Walsh "identification" could have been a mistaken identity - nothing to do with implicating MK in the murder.

I did not meet Scott Forbes until he walked into Corinne's workplace in late 2006 to say he'd been trying to give his information to the police and, later,  Luke's legal team. I'd never heard of Scott Forbes prior to that. As a result of speaking with Corinne, he went on to give a sworn affidavit to Luke's legal team.




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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2021, 12:19:PM »
You've released parts of it without permission. The same copyright laws apply. Can you upload the Scott Forbes segment? You can send it to me if you want and I'll publish it.

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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2021, 12:21:PM »

The inclusion of the MK information in the SCCRC submission was in support of the suggestion that the Fleming and Walsh "identification" could have been a mistaken identity - nothing to do with implicating MK in the murder.


But didn't you discredit that identification by saying it didn't match Luke's description? Or that the clothing was wrong? Now it might have been Mark Kane because he "bore a striking resemblance" ( ::)) to Luke and had a similar green jacket to the one Luke burned? lol.

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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2021, 12:47:PM »
Speaking of identifications, Sandra can you explain why the young couple matching Luke and Jodi seen arguing at the Easthouses end of the path before the murder have never been traced or never come forward? It's a "Small Town" after all, where did this couple vanish to? :o

Or have they never been traced because one is dead and the other in jail? 
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Re: Scott Forbes and Sandra Lean
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2021, 01:12:PM »

The inclusion of the MK information in the SCCRC submission was in support of the suggestion that the Fleming and Walsh "identification" could have been a mistaken identity - nothing to do with implicating MK in



Too late for plausible deniability. Thousands people now heavy implying someone with no recourse or ability to defend their reputation is a murderer, and they're directly quoting you, despite all the info being "in the case files" , not available to public
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Re: Scott Forbes and Sandra Lean
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2021, 02:27:PM »
With regards to the couple seen at the top of the lane, how many sighting were there, was it just the people/person in the car passing or were there other people also report seeing these people?
From what I remember (forgive me if im mistaken its been a while), a lady reported seeing a couple at the top of the lane but from the description of the clothing some say it did not match Jodi (lady said girl had fitted jeans on and Jodi had very baggy black trousers on)? But if others confirmed this sighting they might have a better description.
If the people did not come forward it could be for a number of reasons,
Didn’t realise it was them
They were doing something they shouldnt or with someone they should not be so did not want to come forward
Was a different day
Didn’t see the call for them to come forward
Might not be from the area
Don’t remember being there
Didn’t want involved
Scared to come forward
Were involved in the murder
Might not exist
Might be Luke and Jodi