But that leaves you having to explain the contents of Nevill's telephone call to his son in the early hours of Wednesday 7th August, 1985.
Hi Steve_uk,
My response to your point is that (a) Sheila was almost certainly involved in the shooting of one or more of the other four victims in this tragedy, (b) that Sheila had an accomplice, and that accomplice may have been 'Mathew' Hampton, (c) that Sheila was in possession of one of the two .22 rifles that were normally and legally kept at the farmhouse, and that prior to Neville Bambers phone call to Jeremy, and his 3.26am call to the police, where he informed them that 'MY DAUGHTER HAS GOT HOLD OF ONE OF MY GUNS', and is going 'BERSERK/CRAZY...'
Neville did make contact with the police at 3.26am on the morning in question, and this almost certainly took place after Neville Bamber had telephoned his son, Jeremy (a minute or so beforehand) to tell him to 'Come Quickly to the house, 'Sheila has got the gun, and she is going crazy' (or words to that effect), Not to be overlooked, is that according to Jeremys account regarding that phone call that he received from whf, was that the speech used by Neville in that call to Jeremy, consisted of around 10 or so words, and ended when Jeremy says the connection between him and his father was broken ('the line went dead'). Not only does Jeremy say, that the connection with his father at whf was suddenly and without any warning cut off. Jeremy says that he attempted to call his father back at the farmhouse but each time he tried, he kept getting an 'engaged tone', which led Jeremy to suspect that his father was talking to someone else on the phone. So the phone that was being used at 9 Head Street, Goldhanger was at one time or another, in three different states, throughout the entire period of Neville Bambers call to Jeremy (from Jeremy's perspective) and, or alternatively, the phone at whf was in a similar set or state throughout this/that overall period (From Neville Bamber's perspective). Understanding these separate perspectives regarding the state each phone had been in, lets say between 3.25am -8.09am, it has a bearing on the point you raise regarding why would Neville have told Jeremy (lets say at about 3.25am, and then for Neville to tell the police (at 3.26am) that in the first instance when Neville spoke to Jeremy in that very brief call, (approx' 3.25am) that 'SHEILA HAS GOT THE GUN' and that 'SHE IS GOING CRAZY/BERSERK', and then, why does Neville contact the police (at 3.26am) to inform them that 'MY DAUGHTER HAS GOT HOLD OF ONE OF MY GUNS', etc, etc, etc?
It should become apparent to anyone seeking the truth of this matter, that in order for Neville Bamber to have made 'that call' (approx' 3.25am) to Jeremy, as Jeremy maintains he did, and then for Neville to have made the 3.26am call to the police, that the state (functionality) of the phone/line at whf which Neville was using had to become changed, in the following sequence, between 3.25am, and whenever Neville Bambers 3.26am call to the police, terminated:-
STATE OF PHONE/line at WHF being USED by Neville Bamber as follows..
(1) - Neville picked up the telephone handset, and got 'a dialling tone'..
(2) - Neville dialled Jeremys number at 9 Head Street...
(3) - Neville heard the phone ringing at Jeremy's end of the process
(4) - As soon as the call was received/accepted at Jeremy's cottage (3.25am, or thereabouts), Neville ignored the normal pleasantries/greetings, but instead, he very quickly spurted out his message to Jeremy, in the hope that he could get Jeremy to come immediately to the farm, before Neville got attacked himself which for whatever reason, he believed that shots which had been fired earlier, had been by Sheila and that at any moment or point, she might come down to the kitchen and shoot at him, or whatever. so Neville spoke his message to Jeremy and then he depressed the cradle of the phone which effectively cut off contact between himself at whf and Jeremy at 9 Head Street. At this juncture, it should be remembered that because Neville Bamber had instigated the call from whf (at about 3.25am) to Jeremy at his cottage (9 Head Street, Goldhanger), that no sooner did Neville tap the phones cradle with one or more of his fingers and then released it, that he at whf would automatically get a dialing tone at his end, whilst at Jeremy's end (9 Head Street) at the time Neville depressed his phones cradle, it would appear to Jeremy back at his cottage, that the connection had become broke, cut off...
Once Neville got a dialing tone, on the phone he was using at the farmhouse, and he started to dial out (to the police at 3.26am), Jeremy would get an engaged tone, no matter how many times Jeremy depressed the cradle on his own house phone, he would get and got an engaged tone, which is what Jeremy described happened. After a few times of trying to reestablish contact with his father (Neville) at whf, Jeremy believed that his father may have been talking to police (hence the sudden switch in the state of the phone line at his end, from cut off, to a constant engaged tone). What also becomes relevant, was that because the connection between his father and himself had been instigated by his father from whf to 9 Head Street, that each time that Jeremy tried to reestablish contact with his father back at the farmhouse (after tapping the receiver of his cottage telephone), that Jeremy would have got a dialling tone, which enabled him to dial out the number to the farmhouse. The tone which Jeremy was receiving at each attempt he made to reestablish a connection with his father (a dialing tone) would suddenly/automatically revert/change into an engaged tone to Jeremy at his end, whilst back at whf the telephones state which Neville Bamber was/had been using, could have either (a) be being used because Neville had contacted someone else, such as the police (at/from 3.26am, onwards), or alternatively, (b) the handset of the telephone which Neville Bamber had used to contact Jeremy (3.25am, or thereabouts) was left off the hook on the kitchen worktop, after his 3.26am call to the police, or indeed, to anyone else, and, or (c) the very last person Neville Bamber had called using the phone at whf which had its handset off the hook would create the state of an open line connection...
Now, this is very important knowledge, because if we accept that Jeremy did receive an SOS call from his father at about 3.25am, and the hand set of the phone at the scene (whf) had been left off the hook, without Neville having called anyone else (the police or anyone else, for that matter) it would have had specific consequences. Those consequences would mean, or include, for the impossibility of Jeremy to have got an engaged tone on his own phone when he says he tried to reestablish contact with his father! It woluld also have prevented Jeremy from contacting the police himself, either as of the first occasion (prior to his 3.30am call to his girlfriend, Julie Mugford), or secondly when he contacted the Chelmsford police at 3.36am - In simple terms, whoever was using the telephone at whf (the very last call to anyone) and if Neville Bamber hadn't been 'ABLE TO CALL ANYONE ELSE' because of imminent danger of being attacked at the scene (after he made the 3.25am aborted call to Jeremy, in keeping with Jeremy's account, but that rather he had simply dropped or placed the telephones handset on the kitchen worktop, preventing the receiver of that last call from being able to contact anyone on their own phone because there existed in those circumstances, a lock out, preventing them from doing so, in keeping with the known facts I Have provided...
Please note:-The only 'STATE OF THE TELEPHONE AT WHF' which has been shown to be constantly, in a state known as, or referred to as, it being in an 'OPEN LINE' condition, was/is to Essex police via the unsubstantiated assistance by a female operator who was too afraid to attend 'TRIAL TO TESTIFY AND MAKE HERSELF AVAILABLE TO BE CROSS EXAMIND BY DEFENCE COUNSEL'!Let us get the facts in this matter, right, correct and accurate!
Here, are the known facts..
3.42am, 7th August 1985
Operator confirms the handset of telephone at whf has been 'left off the hook' without stipulating whether or not someone at the scene was/had been engaged in a conversation with another person or organisation!...
At around 6.09am (7th August 1985)The phone at whf suddenly alters into an 'ENGAGED state of functionality', someone inside whf, resets the state of the farmhouse telephone settings, so that a living person inside the farmhouse can/does physically dial '999' to try and contact the emergency services!
6.09am (7th August 1985)Female Operator, Claims that 'SHE PATCHED THROUGH' THE 'OPEN LINE STATE OF THE TELEPHONE LINE AT WHF' TO 'ESSEX POLICE', WITHOUT 'STIPULATING' OR 'MENTIONING
WHICH EMERGENCY SERVICE DID 'THE CALLER REQUEST ASSISTENCE', FROM?
POLICE?
AMBULANCE?FIRE BRIGADE?
7.00 AM (7TH AUGUST 1985)'TWO AMBULANCES and their Crews, TURN UP MYSTERIOUSLY, AT THE SCENE, ESCORTED BY THE POLICE, WITH THE CAPICITY TO CARRY AWAY A MAXIMUM TOTAL OF FOUR INJURED, DYING, OR DEAD VICTIMS!who contacted them, with regards to them attending the incident/scene with the capacity of the ambulance service to only recover a maximum of four bodies, if there were at or by that stage already five injured, dying or deceased victims?
Was the 999 call made at 6.09am, made by someone still alive inside the farmhouse?It is likely, that at about that/this time, that the reason why the telephone/line at whf, changed from being an open line (3.42am) into an active state, at around 6.09am, the very same operator confirmed that the phone at whf had become 'engaged', which was as a result of someone who was still alive inside whf who was requesting that ambulances should be brought to the farmhouse, as quickly as possible to attend to the injured and the dying?
Nothing could be any clearer, or as certain, as certainty could/can be!
Jeremy Bamber could not have shot and killed the five members of his family!!!!
