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Offline Adam

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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #60 on: September 27, 2020, 10:03:PM »

Absolutely and Adam continues to ignore what information Ngb has posted frequently the truth about the bank and the cheque book fraud

What truth? She said she did it & paid the money back.

How does that escalate to making a lone attempt to get an innocent man of being convicted of murdering 5 members of his family?
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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #61 on: September 27, 2020, 10:28:PM »
What truth? She said she did it & paid the money back.

How does that escalate to making a lone attempt to get an innocent man of being convicted of murdering 5 members of his family?


You need to go back and read all the posts regarding the visit to the bank because I have got better things to do than correct you every time you fail to accept the truth.
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2020, 06:34:PM »

You need to go back and read all the posts regarding the visit to the bank because I have got better things to do than correct you every time you fail to accept the truth.
..and you're wrong about the bank visit. In the 2002 appeal it's clearly stated by Alan Dovey that no pressure was brought to bear on him one way or the other.

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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #63 on: September 28, 2020, 07:32:PM »
..and you're wrong about the bank visit. In the 2002 appeal it's clearly stated by Alan Dovey that no pressure was brought to bear on him one way or the other.

Not sure how Julie committing cheque book fraud with Susan Battersby means months later she would go on a crazy, serious lying rampage trying to implicate an innocent man of 5x murder. A month after the massacre.

Too much to lose & too slim chance of success.

But Jackie is entitled to believe this.
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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #64 on: September 28, 2020, 07:41:PM »
Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie? When was the decision made?

I hope this thread has answered your question.

The police could not prosecute Julie for anything -

Cheque book fraud - Bank did not prosecute.

Caravan break in - Julie told the police. Bamber prosecuted.

Selling low grade drugs - Julie told the police. Too minor to prosecute.

Putting pillow on Bamber - Bamber did not prosecute.

Not approaching the police pre massacre - Police unable to prosecute.

Withholding information for a month -  Police unable to prosecute.





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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2020, 07:52:PM »
The police could not force Julie to co operate with them by threatening to prosecute her for these -

Cheque book fraud.

Caravan break in.

Selling low grade drugs.

Putting pillow on Bamber.

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They didn't know about these until Julie told them!
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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2020, 08:02:PM »
The police would have encouraged Julie to give further information. That is what they are supposed to do with a potential major witness.

They may have told her that Bamber is a suspect.

I doubt they had to scare her by saying continuing to withhold information could result in prosecution. Julie had already told 5 people & approached the police.

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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2020, 08:02:PM »
Not sure how Julie committing cheque book fraud with Susan Battersby means months later she would go on a crazy, serious lying rampage trying to implicate an innocent man of 5x murder. A month after the massacre.

Too much to lose & too slim chance of success.

But Jackie is entitled to believe this.

You clearly do not have a grip on reality??


Going on the rampage do you mean when Mugford tried to smother Jeremy

I don’t know what world you live in but I can categorically state none on my female friends have ever tried to smother there boyfriends after being dumped

I have also made it clear that the police would most probably have warned Mugford perjury carries a sentence up to a life term

She clearly run away with her mouth with her friends and got into something she couldn’t get out of.

Please supply just one piece of information Jeremy told Mugford that nobody else new and was truthful

You cannot supply a single piece of evidence
It’s all rubbish and you need to except the truth
Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2020, 08:05:PM »
You clearly do not have a grip on reality??


Going on the rampage do you mean when Mugford tried to smother Jeremy

I don’t know what world you live in but I can categorically state none on my female friends have ever tried to smother there boyfriends after being dumped

I have also made it clear that the police would most probably have warned Mugford perjury carries a sentence up to a life term

She clearly run away with her mouth with her friends and got into something she couldn’t get out of.

Please supply just one piece of information Jeremy told Mugford that nobody else new and was truthful

You cannot supply a single piece of evidence
It’s all rubbish and you need to except the truth
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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2020, 08:05:PM »
You clearly do not have a grip on reality??


Going on the rampage do you mean when Mugford tried to smother Jeremy

I don’t know what world you live in but I can categorically state none on my female friends have ever tried to smother there boyfriends after being dumped

I have also made it clear that the police would most probably have warned Mugford perjury carries a sentence up to a life term

She clearly run away with her mouth with her friends and got into something she couldn’t get out of.

Please supply just one piece of information Jeremy told Mugford that nobody else new and was truthful

You cannot supply a single piece of evidence
It’s all rubbish and you need to except the truth


Low house insurance.

Bible by Sheila.

Sheila's shot locations.

Kitchen fight.

Twins asleep.

Sheila putting up no resistance.

Nevill's multiple shots.

June shot in bed.

Kitchen windows.

Portable phone.

Mason clock.

Twins shot first.

Sheila shot last.

June's sleeping pills.

Sheila & the twins sleeping in different rooms on different nights.

Kitchen argument.

Shooting rabbits.

Sheila shot on parents bed
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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #70 on: September 28, 2020, 08:36:PM »


Sheila's shot locations.



Julie knew this from looking at her in the mortuary.

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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #71 on: September 28, 2020, 08:40:PM »
A glove came off in the fight with Nevill. "I'm glad she's dead, but I do miss the old man occasionally." The Matthew MacDonald story.

I take it that’s a joke

What kind of proof is that??

Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #72 on: September 28, 2020, 08:47:PM »
Julie knew this from looking at her in the mortuary.

Yeah right. She went there to distinguish between the twins. Not check shot locations.

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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #73 on: September 28, 2020, 08:50:PM »
Yeah right. She went there to distinguish between the twins. Not check shot locations.

Don’t be ridiculous, it was a sick move on her part

She had no proof to back up her lies

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Julie Mugford the main prosecution witness was guilty of numerous crimes, 13 separate cheque frauds, robbery, and drug dealing and also making a deal with a national newspaper before trial that if she could convince a jury her ex boyfriend was guilty of five murders she would receive £25,000

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Re: Why did the police choose not to prosecute Julie?
« Reply #74 on: September 28, 2020, 09:03:PM »
Yeah right. She went there to distinguish between the twins. Not check shot locations.

It documented that Julie mentioned seeing "one shot" under Sheila's chin in the mortuary. This is either in Julie or Ann statements IIRC.

Julie overlooking the second shot is what becomes part of her "one shot" tale. And has also resulted in Mikes conspiracy theories.
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