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Offline David1819

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2020, 11:36:AM »
I'll be waiting.

The words on the left are from a letter written by Sheila in 1982. The same words to the right are from the alleged suicide note.


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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2020, 11:59:AM »
The words on the left are from a letter written by Sheila in 1982. The same words to the right are from the alleged suicide note.

Is the alleged suicide note available to see?

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2020, 12:05:PM »
Is the alleged suicide note available to see?

Are these the words:

Love one another. A determination always to act in the others’ best interest, whether we feel good or not, whether we like them or not. It is an act of will, commandment to obey. Be determined to be loving and kind to every person you meet whether you like them or not. Lord Jesus in Thy mercy, teach me to love for Thy name’s sake, help me to live and speak as a Christian, no matter what others may think.

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #48 on: September 17, 2020, 12:11:PM »
Are these the words:

Love one another. A determination always to act in the others’ best interest, whether we feel good or not, whether we like them or not. It is an act of will, commandment to obey. Be determined to be loving and kind to every person you meet whether you like them or not. Lord Jesus in Thy mercy, teach me to love for Thy name’s sake, help me to live and speak as a Christian, no matter what others may think.

Not the one I'm referring to. But David's may be different.

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #49 on: September 17, 2020, 12:18:PM »
Not the one I'm referring to. But David's may be different.

Is the one that you refer to available?

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2020, 12:19:PM »
Not the one I'm referring to. But David's may be different.

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Can you post the suicide note you are referring to

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2020, 12:43:PM »
Is the alleged suicide note available to see?

Yes.












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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #52 on: September 17, 2020, 12:45:PM »
Yes.

Thanks David, that makes my eyes hurt, was she a doctor!!!

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2020, 12:50:PM »
Anyone fancy a job as a translator and typing it out?  :-\

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2020, 12:59:PM »
Anyone fancy a job as a translator and typing it out?  :-\

Some attempts have been made. Here are two parts deciphered by another member here.

"MUMMY DARLING,

STOP LOOKING AT MY PICTURE YOU WILL BREAK YOUR HEART
? ? JUST REMEMBER I AM YOUR DAUGHTER BAMBI. ? ?  BORN 3. 3. 57.
AND NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM YOU AND I.
THE SUN NEWSPAPER & THE POLICE ARE GOING TO BE IN TOUCH SOON AND GET THIS ? DIRTY MESS CLEARED UP AND I MUST SAY IT IS A  ? DIRTY MESSY BUSINESS. AS I SAID BEFORE TURN OVER THE STONE & A LOT A DIRTY BUGS WILL CRAWL OUT. OH MUMMY DON’T YOU THINK I HAVE FEELINGS ALSO ON THIS FLOATING SPACE I AM IN. AS SOON AS THE DIRT IS DUG UP AND THE PUBLIC NO, THEN MY DARLING MUMMY WELL ( will) MY BABYS AND I GO TO  (our) MY REST.
WE NO  (what)  AWFUL STRAIN YOU’RE GOING THROUGH  ? ? ALL THE TEARS AND PAIN I WOULD DEARLY ……."


"TO TESTIFIED TO EX HUSBAND OF MINE WHAT TO DO.
HOW DARE HE SAY NOT TO BRING MY SONS WITH ME THEY'RE WHERE THEY BELONG WITH ME HE NEVER WANTED THEM. OH SO SORRY MUMMY HERE I GO AGAIN GETTING ANGRY BUT HE NEVER WAS ANY GOOD....."
« Last Edit: September 17, 2020, 12:59:PM by David1819 »

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2020, 01:02:PM »
The words on the left are from a letter written by Sheila in 1982. The same words to the right are from the alleged suicide note.

Thanks for that.  I'd say they were written by two different people, but there are similarities as might be expected between a mother and daughter, living for a long time in the same household.

Did you ever see an expert opinion confirming the two writings were done by Sheila?

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2020, 01:03:PM »
Some attempts have been made. Here are two parts deciphered by another member here.

"MUMMY DARLING,

STOP LOOKING AT MY PICTURE YOU WILL BREAK YOUR HEART
? ? JUST REMEMBER I AM YOUR DAUGHTER BAMBI. ? ?  BORN 3. 3. 57.
AND NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT AWAY FROM YOU AND I.
THE SUN NEWSPAPER & THE POLICE ARE GOING TO BE IN TOUCH SOON AND GET THIS ? DIRTY MESS CLEARED UP AND I MUST SAY IT IS A  ? DIRTY MESSY BUSINESS. AS I SAID BEFORE TURN OVER THE STONE & A LOT A DIRTY BUGS WILL CRAWL OUT. OH MUMMY DON’T YOU THINK I HAVE FEELINGS ALSO ON THIS FLOATING SPACE I AM IN. AS SOON AS THE DIRT IS DUG UP AND THE PUBLIC NO, THEN MY DARLING MUMMY WELL ( will) MY BABYS AND I GO TO  (our) MY REST.
WE NO  (what)  AWFUL STRAIN YOU’RE GOING THROUGH  ? ? ALL THE TEARS AND PAIN I WOULD DEARLY ……."


"TO TESTIFIED TO EX HUSBAND OF MINE WHAT TO DO.
HOW DARE HE SAY NOT TO BRING MY SONS WITH ME THEY'RE WHERE THEY BELONG WITH ME HE NEVER WANTED THEM. OH SO SORRY MUMMY HERE I GO AGAIN GETTING ANGRY BUT HE NEVER WAS ANY GOOD....."


Is mummy her birth mother or June I wonder?

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2020, 01:10:PM »
Yes.













Third line up on the last page above the signature  "... in the after world ..." 
That sounds a bit ominous doesn't it?

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #58 on: September 17, 2020, 01:20:PM »
Third line up on the last page above the signature  "... in the after world ..." 
That sounds a bit ominous doesn't it?

Indeed. That's why I refer to it as an alleged suicide note. Suicide is not explicitly expressed but it can be seen as implied.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2020, 09:34:PM by David1819 »

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Re: What caused Sheila Caffell to kill her parents?
« Reply #59 on: September 17, 2020, 01:24:PM »
Third line up on the last page above the signature  "... in the after world ..." 
That sounds a bit ominous doesn't it?

It's a bit dark, maybe influenced by her bible reading.  :-\

I see that there have been a few threads discussing these notes of the years.