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Offline gringo

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Re: The September 11 attacks
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2020, 09:57:PM »
The reporters you mention have appeared on several documentaries and explained it.

Steel loses its strength under heat. Hence all the towers collapsed after the fires spread uncontrollably for a period of time.

In a typical fire scenario (Where the fire starts from within) these buildings are designed to starve the fire of oxygen. In this case all buildings had huge holes in them thus feeding the fires oxygen and all water suppression systems were cut off from plane impact and in WTC7s case the collapse of the towers.
   Risible explanations that fail to address the obvious anomalies that require explanation.
    How did all of the supports fail simultaneously in order for free fall to take place? It is agreed by all that there was a simultaneous failure of independent steel supports.
    That you choose to believe that independent steel beams can simultaneously fail, whilst also believing that newsreaders who reported this event more than 20 minutes before it occurred made a simple mistake that requires no more explanation than calling it an error is your prerogative.
    That you also support NATO/US/UK etc. aggression wherever it occurs demonstrates that you are wedded to your position through dogma rather than reason.

   

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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2020, 10:32:PM »
   Risible explanations that fail to address the obvious anomalies that require explanation.
    How did all of the supports fail simultaneously in order for free fall to take place? It is agreed by all that there was a simultaneous failure of independent steel supports.
 

Its answered below. Point number 11.

https://www.nist.gov/topics/disaster-failure-studies/faqs-nist-wtc-7-investigation

I think we are both out of our depth on this subject. I don't know anything about structural engineering, do you?


That you choose to believe that independent steel beams can simultaneously fail, whilst also believing that newsreaders who reported this event more than 20 minutes before it occurred made a simple mistake that requires no more explanation than calling it an error is your prerogative.

Its called Occam's razor actually.

That you also support NATO/US/UK etc. aggression wherever it occurs demonstrates that you are wedded to your position through dogma rather than reason.

Its not reasonable to believe Bush and Cheney installed demolitions inside a working office full of people undetected. An operation that would also require them to be working alongside the terrorists who perpetrated the attacks on WTC 1 and 2.

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« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2020, 10:25:AM »
What about it?

You obviously haven't watched the video I put up, which is pure stubbornness on your part.  In spite of your refusal, the issue I am referring to regarding the wings has been mentioned by several different commentators on these attacks. 

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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2020, 10:41:AM »
Hey Roch I like your avatar.

Offline David1819

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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2020, 10:45:AM »
Demolition Expert Mark Loizeaux on WTC 7

https://streamable.com/urc4w4

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« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2020, 10:50:AM »
You obviously haven't watched the video I put up, which is pure stubbornness on your part.  In spite of your refusal, the issue I am referring to regarding the wings has been mentioned by several different commentators on these attacks.

What about the wings?

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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2020, 10:59:AM »
Hey Roch I like your avatar.


Thanks. Yes, I'm currently reading Nick Kollerstrom's investigation in to it. I intend to purchase the Notes from The Borderlands edition that deals with 7/7, as I understand that Larry O'Harra's take on it is probably different. I watched Anthony John Hill's video 7/7 Ripple Effect several years ago. I only found out recently that the authorities had him extradited from Ireland and imprisoned in London for the duration of one of the subsequent legal hearings... and then let him go free once the proceedings had finished.
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« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2020, 11:01:AM »
What about the wings?

Where are they?

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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2020, 11:10:AM »
Where are they?

Most often they are located around the center length of aircraft's chassis.

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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2020, 11:15:AM »
Most often they are located around the center length of aircraft's chassis.
So did the wings end up inside the building with the Chassis ?

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« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2020, 11:38:AM »
So did the wings end up inside the building with the Chassis ?


According to the footage, yes  :))

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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2020, 02:07:PM »
So did the wings end up inside the building with the Chassis ?


Most of the wings yes. It seems thinner outer edges of the wings did not manage to break through the outer collumns
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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2020, 02:27:PM »
Most of the wings yes. It seems thinner outer edges of the wings did not manage to break through the outer collumns

Please go back and look at the footage.

The entire plane, wings an' all, enters the tower. It has the appearance of literally going in to the tower 'like a knife through butter'.

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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2020, 04:12:PM »
Please go back and look at the footage.

The entire plane, wings an' all, enters the tower. It has the appearance of literally going in to the tower 'like a knife through butter'.

What do you expect a 90 ton aircraft travelling at 490mph to do when it crashes into a structure consisting primarily of office space? ::)

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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2020, 06:27:PM »
I would expect the hollow aluminium structure to cut through reinforced concrete and steel and disappear inside the building. And because it was travelling so fast I would expect it to pop out the other side of the building. LOL