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Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« on: May 03, 2020, 01:22:PM »
Just watching over some of the old Making a Murderer Documentary and some comparisons and the suggestions he was set up the second time because of the compensations involved
When did any miscarriage of justice victim get a sizeable payout and how much would Jeremy be likely to get.
I know there are restrictions in place to stop victims get much money and This could be the reason for so much still witheld  especially with the Mugford evidence
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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2020, 01:27:PM »
i really dont know ithink itwould be about 1 millon ffor the time  hes served but hes not aruntied to et anything

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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2020, 01:32:PM »
I would think that the amount of compensation would come into it, but the more the case is put off, the bigger the payout at the end of it all and the less likely that it's going to happen.
Although I've said similar in the past and have been proved wrong so you never know.

How on earth would anyone be able to work it out ? This is his 35th year.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2020, 05:16:PM »
Just watching over some of the old Making a Murderer Documentary and some comparisons and the suggestions he was set up the second time because of the compensations involved
When did any miscarriage of justice victim get a sizeable payout and how much would Jeremy be likely to get.
I know there are restrictions in place to stop victims get much money and This could be the reason for so much still witheld  especially with the Mugford evidence

That "documentary" series is fictional. Avery got his compensation for his wrongful imprisonment. He was not setup the second time.

This was said at his sentencing.

"The fact that everyone acknowledged that you had been wrongly convicted made you a subject of sympathy, not only in this community, but across the State. The State legislature introduced legislation which bore your name, extending greater protections to those accused of crimes in order to reduce the future potential for wrongful convictions. Legislators were questioning whether the State shouldn't be increasing the maximum amount of compensation which can be awarded to persons who were wrongfully incarcerated.

You were also the plaintiff in a civil suit against Manitowoc County, which promised to bring you significant compensation for your lengthy period of wrongful incarceration. Even with the specter of the homicide charges in this case hanging over your head, your attorneys were able to settle that case for $400,000. However, despite having the widespread sympathy of the public, and the prospects for a significant financial award, you committed the horrible crime that brings you here to be sentenced today.

All the evidence suggests that this was not a crime of passion, but rather of planned premeditation. There is no indication, that I saw in the trial, that you were under the influence of alcohol or drugs at the time. The victim was not a acquaintance with which you had any particular relationship that could have given rise to any type of domestic disturbance, but was a mere business acquaintance. Moreover, the crime was not the result of a youthful lapse of judgement; you were 43 years old at the time you committed the crime.

In terms of assessing your danger to society, the evidence forces me to conclude that you are probably the most dangerous individual ever to set foot in this courtroom."

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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2020, 05:26:PM »
That "documentary" series is fictional. Avery got his compensation for his wrongful imprisonment. He was not setup the second time.

This was said at his sentencing.

"The fact that everyone acknowledged that you had been wrongly convicted made you a subject of sympathy, not only in this community, but across the State. The State legislature introduced legislation which bore your name, extending greater protections to those accused of crimes in order to reduce the future potential for wrongful convictions. Legislators were questioning whether the State shouldn't be increasing the maximum amount of compensation which can be awarded to persons who were wrongfully incarcerated.

You were also the plaintiff in a civil suit against Manitowoc County, which promised to bring you significant compensation for your lengthy period of wrongful incarceration. Even with the specter of the homicide charges in this case hanging over your head, your attorneys were able to settle that case for $400,000. However, despite having the widespread sympathy of the public, and the prospects for a significant financial award, you committed the horrible crime that brings you here to be sentenced today.

All the evidence suggests that this was not a crime of passion, but rather of planned premeditation. There is no indication, that I saw in the trial, that you were under the influence of alcohol or drugs at the time. The victim was not a acquaintance with which you had any particular relationship that could have given rise to any type of domestic disturbance, but was a mere business acquaintance. Moreover, the crime was not the result of a youthful lapse of judgement; you were 43 years old at the time you committed the crime.

In terms of assessing your danger to society, the evidence forces me to conclude that you are probably the most dangerous individual ever to set foot in this courtroom."


the murder happend while the compseation lawsuit was still going on becouse of it avery was forced to settle for much less than he asked for.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2020, 06:32:PM »
I would think that the amount of compensation would come into it, but the more the case is put off, the bigger the payout at the end of it all and the less likely that it's going to happen.
Although I've said similar in the past and have been proved wrong so you never know.

How on earth would anyone be able to work it out ? This is his 35th year.

well  its not certan he will et anythin it depends how he gets out.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2020, 06:48:PM »
That "documentary" series is fictional. Avery got his compensation for his wrongful imprisonment. He was not setup the second time.

This was said at his sentencing.

"The fact that everyone acknowledged that you had been wrongly convicted made you a subject of sympathy, not only in this community, but across the State. The State legislature introduced legislation which bore your name, extending greater protections to those accused of crimes in order to reduce the future potential for wrongful convictions. Legislators were questioning whether the State shouldn't be increasing the maximum amount of compensation which can be awarded to persons who were wrongfully incarcerated.

You were also the plaintiff in a civil suit against Manitowoc County, which promised to bring you significant compensation for your lengthy period of wrongful incarceration. Even with the specter of the homicide charges in this case hanging over your head, your attorneys were able to settle that case for $400,000. However, despite having the widespread sympathy of the public, and the prospects for a significant financial award, you committed the horrible crime that brings you here to be sentenced today.

All the evidence suggests that this was not a crime of passion, but rather of planned premeditation. There is no indication, that I saw in the trial, that you were under the influence of alcohol or drugs at the time. The victim was not a acquaintance with which you had any particular relationship that could have given rise to any type of domestic disturbance, but was a mere business acquaintance. Moreover, the crime was not the result of a youthful lapse of judgement; you were 43 years old at the time you committed the crime.

In terms of assessing your danger to society, the evidence forces me to conclude that you are probably the most dangerous individual ever to set foot in this courtroom."



Are you sure he was set up?

I know he has got a top lawyer now who specialises in miscarriages of justice
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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2020, 06:51:PM »
David what did you make of the sample that had been tampered with by the police using a needle to take a sample
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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2020, 06:52:PM »
Love watching these defence lawyers they are so good
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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2020, 07:04:PM »

Are you sure he was set up?

I know he has got a top lawyer now who specialises in miscarriages of justice

The victims burned bones were found outside his house where he had an 8 hour bonfire the night she disappeared. The murder weapon was found hanging up on his wall. Blood from a cut on Avery's finger was found inside the victims car. His next door neighbour said they both raped and killed her. Avery confessed to his civil lawyers on the phone and has confessed to other inmates.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2020, 07:08:PM »
The victims burned bones were found outside his house where he had an 8 hour bonfire the night she disappeared. The murder weapon was found hanging up on his wall. Blood from a cut on Avery's finger was found inside the victims car. His next door neighbour said they both raped and killed her. Avery confessed to his civil lawyers on the phone and has confessed to other inmates.


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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2020, 07:55:PM »
Thanks Nugs

His next door neighbor who was his cousin was of very low intelligence and a lot of belief the young boys confession was coerced
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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2020, 08:11:PM »
Thanks Nugs

His next door neighbor who was his cousin was of very low intelligence and a lot of belief the young boys confession was coerced

the next door neuhbor would of logically been a suspect himself or should of been.

most of the bones were dound in the burn barrel wich i belive was on the property of bobby dassy not steve avery.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2020, 12:56:PM »
Thanks Nugs

His next door neighbor who was his cousin was of very low intelligence and a lot of belief the young boys confession was coerced

This is a call between Avery and his lawyer Glynn, right after Avery learns of Brendan’s police interviews.

https://streamable.com/ayckx8

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Re: Jeremy Bamber v Steven Avery
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2020, 01:17:PM »
This is a call between Avery and his lawyer Glynn, right after Avery learns of Brendan’s police interviews.

https://streamable.com/ayckx8

how would they have a tapr of what avery said to his lawyer that is ilgall.

theycould of been talking about anything.